Wookie Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 And talking to Dubya about Iran as mentioned before... One thing I will say is that Classic FM (the radio tuned itself to it and I was too lazy to change it ok?!) was saying that the outbreak was actually known about 8 days ago or so and it was only now that they were doing something about it. They also said that the infected birds were inside a sealed shed and that the virus could maybe only have got in through ventilation. I thought H5N1 was a close proximity thing? The sort of thing you could only really get from being _very_ close to infected animals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning GTS Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Taken from the BASC website How will this outbreak affect people who shoot within the restricted zones? As the outbreak is in a commercial flock, there are currently no legal requirements to stop shooting activities in any of the restricted zones. This situation is currently under review and may change over the next few days. BASC is in constant contact with Defra and will continue to monitor this situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmerguy.22 Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Thats a relief!! Cheers for the info as i still havnt got round to looking!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk shooter Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Highlander, you're over abit from me towards the coast. Somebody on Saturday morning told me that they had seen a report (Not sure if on TV or in EADT) with a Map showing the restricted area. My wife's just told me that it came down as far as Diss and then across the top of BSE, but she couldn't remember how far east it went. I'd heard all the way to Felixstowe. FG.22, how the hell can you/we be in the restricted Zone, you must be all of 30-35 mile away as the crow flies from Holton and me further. If I was you I'd be out there shooting and at least keeping an eye on the land to ensure that nothing was dropping down. Not wishing to create mass hysteria, but if people report what they see early enough, then procedures can be put into place properly. Two years ago the I put an extension on at Holton right at the front next to the reception. The Estate Facility office was down the side and to the back. Your right about why anybody would want a BM Turkey after seeing the Lorries back up and the Offal being conveyored into the back. The smell of rotting blood, meat, bone, feather etc. is extremely off putting. All the work force back then was Portugese. Is it possible that one of these has been home over xmas period and unknowningly brought it back with him??? SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mil-Dot Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 I find it amusing when people get worried about it mutating and there being an epidemic in humans. There are millions of deadly viruses in animals that, If they mutated could kill many people. The chances of this happening are very small and there is little we could do about it if it does happen, there is no point worrying about it. This is just the one virus that the media has latched onto because it could have a significant effect on an important food source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 9R Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Highlander, you're over abit from me towards the coast. Somebody on Saturday morning told me that they had seen a report (Not sure if on TV or in EADT) with a Map showing the restricted area. My wife's just told me that it came down as far as Diss and then across the top of BSE, but she couldn't remember how far east it went. I'd heard all the way to Felixstowe. FG.22, how the hell can you/we be in the restricted Zone, you must be all of 30-35 mile away as the crow flies from Holton and me further. If I was you I'd be out there shooting and at least keeping an eye on the land to ensure that nothing was dropping down. Not wishing to create mass hysteria, but if people report what they see early enough, then procedures can be put into place properly. Two years ago the I put an extension on at Holton right at the front next to the reception. The Estate Facility office was down the side and to the back. Your right about why anybody would want a BM Turkey after seeing the Lorries back up and the Offal being conveyored into the back. The smell of rotting blood, meat, bone, feather etc. is extremely off putting. All the work force back then was Portugese. Is it possible that one of these has been home over xmas period and unknowningly brought it back with him??? SS SS The larger survey area come as far as the north bank of the Deben right to the coast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 I find it amusing when people get worried about it mutating and there being an epidemic in humans. There are millions of deadly viruses in animals that, If they mutated could kill many people. The chances of this happening are very small and there is little we could do about it if it does happen, there is no point worrying about it. This is just the one virus that the media has latched onto because it could have a significant effect on an important food source. I'm guessing that they're latching onto it because it was a mutation of a bird virus that killed 70 million people in 1918/19. But, those were people existing in a post-world-war world with malnutrition and no retroviral drugs or antibiotics to treat the related infections (most died of pneumonia). If you ask me, the world's population could do with a bit of a cull of the weak at the moment (sorry do-gooders everywhere!) This all comes from the obsession with population growth to fund the worlds economic growth and pay for the aging population. If you put people in a concentration camp they get sick, why should poultry be any different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il cacciatore Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Bird flu worker ill in hospital Is this the start of a global pandemic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mil-Dot Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 I find it amusing when people get worried about it mutating and there being an epidemic in humans. There are millions of deadly viruses in animals that, If they mutated could kill many people. The chances of this happening are very small and there is little we could do about it if it does happen, there is no point worrying about it. This is just the one virus that the media has latched onto because it could have a significant effect on an important food source. I'm guessing that they're latching onto it because it was a mutation of a bird virus that killed 70 million people in 1918/19. But, those were people existing in a post-world-war world with malnutrition and no retroviral drugs or antibiotics to treat the related infections (most died of pneumonia). If you ask me, the world's population could do with a bit of a cull of the weak at the moment (sorry do-gooders everywhere!) This all comes from the obsession with population growth to fund the worlds economic growth and pay for the aging population. If you put people in a concentration camp they get sick, why should poultry be any different. I had forgotten about that, even so, just because it has happened before it does not mean its more likely to happen again, they are worrying people unnecessarily. I agree with your second paragraph, its seems uncaring but many of the terrible things going on in the world are due to overpopulation. At some point there will just be too many people and something like a virus or perhaps drastic climate change will devastate the population. Our population growth is not sustainable, its just a matter of time before it all goes wrong. Wow, that was depressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 If you ask me, the world's population could do with a bit of a cull of the weak at the moment (sorry do-gooders everywhere!) This all comes from the obsession with population growth to fund the worlds economic growth and pay for the aging population. If you put people in a concentration camp they get sick, why should poultry be any different. People are saying that AIDS will be the saviour of Africa. Cue : Noah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 There may be a glimmer of hope from this. According to sky new a " government " vet has been admitted to hospital with breathing difficulties. If this means the free loading " vets " who draw a huge salary, know naff all about animals except how to slaughter them die off then happy days. If enough of them turn up their toes then maybe, just maybe, the next time foot and mouth rears its fetid head common sense will prevail.Those tossers are as much to blame for farmers losing everything as bliar and his advisors who were the above. Harsh words maybe but those leeches were drawing huge salaries, paid for by us, whilst they slaughtered flocks, herds and families. Didnt matter to them they were destroying people as long as the cheque arrived, its got to be easier than running a practice ? if its all the same to you I`ll save my sympathy for the farmers driven to the wall or further. Rant over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 There may be a glimmer of hope from this.According to sky new a " government " vet has been admitted to hospital with breathing difficulties. If this means the free loading " vets " who draw a huge salary, know naff all about animals except how to slaughter them die off then happy days. If enough of them turn up their toes then maybe, just maybe, the next time foot and mouth rears its fetid head common sense will prevail.Those tossers are as much to blame for farmers losing everything as bliar and his advisors who were the above. Harsh words maybe but those leeches were drawing huge salaries, paid for by us, whilst they slaughtered flocks, herds and families. Didnt matter to them they were destroying people as long as the cheque arrived, its got to be easier than running a practice ? if its all the same to you I`ll save my sympathy for the farmers driven to the wall or further. Rant over can we take it then that you dont watch , its a vets life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 [ People are saying that AIDS will be the saviour of Africa. Who's saying that? Not that I disagree, I just wonder who of the brave press are actually realising that x billion people is unsustainable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Mark, my dogs vet drives a huge merc. Fair play to her as with all on here money is no option when it comes to keeping my dog healthy, when I had one put down out of hours there was no charge. When I had a lunatic collie go through the glass on a front door and back through the shards at half five one morning I was only charged for the stitching. As opposed to some twit who has to keep his kids in public school, his wife in prada and has no feelings at all. Bunch of self serving scrotes whose legacy will be the funeral pyres of millions of uninfected animals, suicides of farmers and a decade blighted by their choice to take the devils dollar rather than do the right thing. Gas them with the turkeys, bolt them like the cattle that may have BSE or kill them wholesale if they are within 500 miles of a foot and mouth " outbreak ". Just dont expect me to give a flying one when they get theirs. Rant truly over, unless Mark posts a reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
col s10 Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 bootiful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Apparently the farm worker is not suffering from human crossover H5N1, so panic over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 I drove past on sunday, had to go round road blocks, all sorted now (they say) We have closed one of our marshes just outside the area for shooting just to be safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Good plan Pavman. I was a bit worried your area would be inside the exclusion area given that Halesworth is not that far away from Aldeburgh. Are you still keeping an eye out for dead/dying birds just in case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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