marsh man Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 With all this talk lately about the general licence how would we stand on shooting on stubble ?, do they presume we only go crops, with this years drilling been pretty poor for most us a lot of the members and non members are going to rely on shooting on the stubbles ex, pea, barley, wheat, rape and bean and once the crop is gone we are no longer protecting it, then it could be the same for roost shooting, we have all been doing it long enough we take it for granted it will carry on forever , who would police it, I don't know , but if we continued doing it would we be risking our s g c , we had a laugh about shooing them off first but if they rewrite it and said we can only shoot pigeons when there doing damage to crops and on crops only we could have a big problem on our hands what do you think ?or are we worrying unnecessary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 (edited) As long as they are on the general licence then they are fair game on all crops or residue that's my take on it. I don't do much roost shooting however and in my experience is just as difficult to build up a good bag on stubble as it is any other crop so I usually only shoot over vulnerable crops when requested to do so. The opinion of the many land owners whose land I shoot over is divided equally. Half are comfortable with stubble shooting half don't allow it as they feel they are doing their bit for conservation and all the birds are doing is hoovering up grain that would otherwise sprout. The same farmers plant wild bird seed on rotation and wont let me shoot that either even though there are always pigeon on it I think any changes to the general licence in the future will not alter pest species but will perhaps simplify its constitution so as to remove any ambiguity of how it is construed. Edited April 28, 2014 by Fisherman Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 28, 2014 Report Share Posted April 28, 2014 By shooting stubbles you are preventing later damage to crops , which as things stand with the GL at the moment is suficient reason . The same would apply to roost shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 With all this talk lately about the general licence how would we stand on shooting on stubble ?, do they presume we only go crops, with this years drilling been pretty poor for most us a lot of the members and non members are going to rely on shooting on the stubbles ex, pea, barley, wheat, rape and bean and once the crop is gone we are no longer protecting it, then it could be the same for roost shooting, we have all been doing it long enough we take it for granted it will carry on forever , who would police it, I don't know , but if we continued doing it would we be risking our s g c , we had a laugh about shooing them off first but if they rewrite it and said we can only shoot pigeons when there doing damage to crops and on crops only we could have a big problem on our hands what do you think ?or are we worrying unnecessary Nope,you aren`t worrying unnecessarily!It`s the antis attacking from the rear ,having gained position in government quangos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wychwood Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 I would agree with Matone. Looks like there are a few things Nat Eng are trying to push through. This is the best summary I have found https://basc.org.uk/blog/media/consultations/english-general-licences-consultation-have-your-say/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) we dont stand a chance do we,they seem to do what they like we are not like the usa, they stand together and have a stronger lobby, Edited April 29, 2014 by mossy835 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Just look at the figures for membership of the two main countrysports orgs versus the number of shooting people. The antis know we are a weak target and have infiltrated both Euro gov and all of the relevant orgs here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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