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  1. You would think after a lifetime of shooting you would by now remember to take the main ingredients for a days shooting , you would think so but leaving a item behind must happen to just about everyone , when I first moved my pigeon gear was scattered about around my garage until I put it in some sort of order , until I got it sorted it was a rare occasion when I remembered to take everything required , I went with Alan ( Lakeside ) twice and once I forgot my magnet and the second time a seat to sit on , with no seat I thought I would try kneeling in my hide on a fresh cut barley stubble field , the first five minutes were alright and then stiffness set in , after half an hour that was it , I then had to resort to plan B , I went and got my motor and reversed sideways to a large bale , then I put the hide around my tail gate while I sat in comfort , some Pigeons were not going to be fooled , but many more were and we had a very good afternoons shooting . An item I once left behind that was more important than my gun was my dog , no not at home but at the game dealers . I was doing a little job about 9 miles from Pettits of Reedham and had my boot full of Pigeons and the dog I had then sat on the back seat of my estate car , after we got the pigeons out I left the boot open while I went in the office to get my money , after we had a longish yarn I came out and shut the boot , I got as far as Acle which is about 7 miles and I just happen to look behind to see if my dog was asleep , no dog , I stopped to see if he jumped over and gone into my boot , no no dog , I done a two point turn and got back to the dealers in record time , went running into the office to see if anyone had seen him and low and behold he was sitting in the office without a care in the world , another lesson learnt and five or six dogs later I have never again left my dog behind , well up till now that is .
  2. Like one of the members have already mentioned is the area where you live in , living where we do I wouldn't know how hard it is to get the go ahead in a high populated area where several people could be after the same perm at the same time . In the ideal situation you have got time to go on the day , or very soon after you get the o k , if you have only got Saturday or a short amount of time to go then you are up against it , then you don't want to travel miles just to look at a field , in the ideal world you want your perms fairly near to where you live , so when the days pull out you can have a look when you leave off work so you know within a little what Pigeons are going on the field you are keeping an eye on . When you do finally get the go ahead , only go on the field you have asked to go on , find out if it is alright to use plastic wads , or if there is livestock on the farm it would be best to use fiber wads only , if you have got a reasonably well trained dog then that's fine , if the dog is a problem then leave it at home , last but not least is , don't take anyone else until the landowner has said it is alright to do so . do a good job and new perms will soon come your way .
  3. We all started off going down the same route , finding a field then knocking on the land owners door , to be honest I wasn't that concerned if they had others people going and I was prepared to go on the day I saw Pigeons during the damage . I must admit it wasn't that difficult getting the go ahead when we started , the more land you went on in that area the easier it was to gain new land , having a lot of land to go on is good news , the problem by having a big area you cannot be every where at once and in the early days I still had to work longish hours to pay the bills , then on a Friday afternoon when I finished work I would have a ride out to find some for the following day , you might find a good field or a block of fields that are having problems with a lot of Pigeons , like a block of laid Wheat / Barley , these fields might be shot hard for a two or three weeks and then again on the stubble . This is fine as far as I was concerned but what about all the other land that you are not going on ? , this is where the op might get his foot in the door if the farmer haven't seen you for a few weeks and don't know if you are still shooting ? , this could be the exactly the same circumstances when we first knocked on that farmers door . Now I only look after one big(ish) area and go any day of the week so in the rare event anyone enquire about Pigeon shooting they will be told truthfully that somebody all ready look after the place . GOOD LUCK to the op and don't stop trying , even us oldies can't go on for ever and that is the same throughout the land.
  4. He was Jaymo , he beat me by a country mile and you well know how long a mile is in our fine county when ditchie put on a slab of shells , he had already left Peterbourgh(shire) and was half way to Norfolk time I saw them Glad you enjoyed it , did you have it delivered ? , I am slowly catching you and I mean sloooooowly , thing is , if I see any and you are not involved I begin to wander why ? to dear , to far or not enough , then time I figure it , I see you are picking them up Monday and once again I am to late
  5. Well done TC , Might be slowing up a bit due to hunger pains , but still way ahead of the also rans
  6. The above would certainly not be on my bucket list , with geese I can remember most , if not all the ones I have shot , I often look in my diary and the few details of the flight bring it all back . with that type of shooting I would soon forget what I had shot and the gun would go back in the slip . You can't call it any type of wild fowling , it is purely goose decoying for crop protection , and that wouldn't appeal to me one bit .
  7. One bird we are never short of Walker , in fact this time of the year we have got 1000s , as an example our local bird watcher who do the bird counts on the estuary reported 14,000 Lapwing on the 15th December , along with 30,000 Golden Plover ,26,000 Wideon , 1,400 Curlew , 2,500 Bar Tailed Godwit and 3,050 Pink Footed Geese ( Roosting ) , must have took a fair bit of counting .
  8. A five minute gap Dave , unlike you , old age is catching up with you
  9. Looking forward to your new release on your last flight , and don't worry about the swear words , we have no doubt heard it many, many times before Big Al ... Do you ever shoot the loch in the late afternoons / evenings ?
  10. Excellent report and the presentation must be a strong contender for the number 1 slot for ( P W Best Layout 2022 ). Not a feather out of place and it looked like you have used a level and a tape measure , even though the Norfolk hot shots are getting a lot better with the photo presentation , in comparison with yours I am sorry to say they have still got a fair way to go to match your neatness
  11. I agree with it being wise after the event , mind you , even if the bridge was in tip top condition it didn't look suitable to tow a trailer across loaded up people , this will be looked into as the main enquiry with the health and safety , so time will tell As for risk assessment , where do you start and finish ? , and who carry it out ?, on a daily , weekly or monthly basis ? To cancel a days shooting due to bad weather is nearly unheard of this day and age , where do you draw a line with Fog , Snow , Ice and gale force winds ? We have had to change planned drives at times due to very strong winds with the risk of fallen branches in the woods . The last time a shoot was cancelled ( mid day ) was through fog , and this was because the guns couldn't see there next door neighbour's on the pegs , or the birds . Snow and ice , I can never remember a day cancelled . No doubt some recommendations will come out of the enquiry and this alone could alter how shoots are run in the coming years
  12. A first class video Big Al , good shooting and superb retrieving . We have had an above average season with Wigeon this season , very good up until just before Christmas and then it started to tail off as more and more marshes started to flood , even so you could still get one or two if you picked the right nights , I now very rarely go in the mornings as my body don't work that early , this last week with the sharp frosts have brought in a lot of Teal and my last duck on Friday night was a drake Gadwall in mint condition , Saturday we were game shooting all day so next week will be our last week and tomorrow night will be the start of a very busy week before we say farewell to another season
  13. All days are great when a small token of thanks end up in the pocket , when I was driving the shoot lorry it was a fairly regular occurrence to get some folding money for many varied reasons , believe it or not , I have lent a visiting gun one of my own guns for the days shoot , the last time was when a friend of my boss came over from Dubai for a short break and was invited on the days shoot , other reasons were , getting a empty cartridge case out of a gun that had slipped over a ejector , stripping a gun down that was rusty after not been used since the last season , giving a gun a couple of my back pain tablets for his head ache , going down the pub dinnertime to get some fags , and a strange one was when we had chap turn up on a sold day with a good looking young lady that I never found out weather it was his girl friend , his wife or someone else's wife , after the briefing I was asked to stand with her on her peg to put her at ease and above all to make sure she was safe , during the morning she had a fair amount of shooting and didn't hit a bird , after lunch she was number 9 and was the only gun on the other side of the hedge , while we were having a yarn she said do you want a shot with my gun ? , I said no not really , go on have a go , alright then , one shot and then you can take it back , I was keeping my fingers crossed that nothing came our way as normally no 9 is mainly out of the drive , when the Partridges started to jump from the flushing point in the wood one bird swung and followed the hedge , I had no option bar giving it a shot , I swung her little ole gun up and gave it a shot when it was nearly level with us and as luck would have it the poor bird hit full on and was as dead as a dodo , her partner who could see it from where he was shouted out good shot , I handed back her gun and she still ended the day hitting nothing . When we got back to the hall she came over and thanked me for looking after her and for keeping our little white lie a secret , with this we shook hands and my sensitive fingers detected a folding bank note which was very much appreciated
  14. You made the effort and on another day it could have all gone to plan , if you were in a woodland area I wouldn't have thought the o s r fields are not that far away , might be worth putting the feelers out and shoot them where they are feeding and then have a hour in the woods to finish your day off . THANKS for the update
  15. Some evenings for light are better than others , the worst nights are clear skies with no cloud cover, and the best ones are thin cloud with the moon poking out , over a period of time you can train your eyes to virtually see in the dark , now I am in the mid 70s my eyes are nowhere as good as they once were when it come to flighting duck at night, but I still get more than my fair share with the ones I can still see , as a member have already said you don't take your eyes off the duck / goose you intend to fire at and at the time of firing the gun should be in your shoulder while still watching the bird , it is then a matter of drawing the gun past the bird and pulling the trigger at more or less the same time , easier said than done if you are not use to it . I used to spend many nights walking around the marshes under the moon jumping duck out of the dykes , you always tried to walk with the moon on the other side of the dyke so they jumped into what little light there was , same again , you watch the duck while the gun is fitting in your shoulder and block the duck out while pulling the trigger , if you can see the duck as you are pulling the trigger then you are below it and you will miss it . Very rarely you will pick a night when the marshes are covered in snow with a full moon out , this is like shooting in the day light , you can even tell the duck from the drake when they jump , one of the strangest shots I once done on a similar night was a covey of English Partridges jumped up in front of me , crossed over in the snow and I knocked one out about 10 o clock at night , somewhere down the line I had most likely broken the law , but at that time of the night and no one about the chances of getting court were very unlikely to say the least
  16. No , I am sorry I haven't , well not really sorry , just wondering what if anything I have been missing ? , the only item I am hopping is in the palm of the hand when I shake it after a days shooting is over is a folding piece of paper , and colour this time really do make a bit of difference
  17. Sooner or later you were going to get it right first time without having to up stumps and restart at another location after the first attempt dried up far to soon . Fantastic bag and your first solo three figure bag in 2022 must only be a matter of days ( or weeks ) away
  18. What about the Eley Alphamax , they had a fair bit of brass and they were Red , the first Yellow ones we used were the well liked Yellow Wizard's , these were about in the 60s for about 12/6d a box ,
  19. Possibly a over zealous keeper who was peeved he hadn't been informed , we now get very few , if any enquiries about pigeon shooting on crops , in the past the farm manager would been first port of call , he would then get in touch with the keeper to make sure it would be alright to purely shoot that crop , as he wouldn't want any stranger entering the wood nearby in case they see the release pens , or any Larsen traps ect , like I say , that is something we no longer have to contend with .
  20. A good report on three varied days , your friend must have been on cloud nine after spending three months housebound , I know I would have done Your second day was hampered by the gas guns and the weather , some members like shooting in the fog , myself , I hate it and would had done the same as you , possibly sooner as I have no doubt got more time than you to sort another day to go later on during the week . Your third day left you in a funny situation with the keeper not very happy with you shooting and the farm manager giving you the go ahead , I can understand if the field had been drilled as soon as the beet was off , and I can also understand if the keeper has a game strip nearby and a shoot booked in over the next few days . Things have changed slightly over the years as at one time our ole head keeper would have had you off there and then and the farm manager would had been ordered up the hall to do some explaining .
  21. You done well to get what you got with the bright sunshine hitman , down here there was a sharp frost but as the sun came up it soon started to thaw out , not the ideal type of weather to shoot pigeons but a bonus for late January . One of the coldest mornings we have had this Winter , all the puddles were frozen over along with some of the dykes , we have got a fleet dyke that run down the center of the marsh that very rarely freeze as the water is always running slowly to the pump house , this morning I took my gun and I felt almost sorry when my dog had to cross it a couple of times to retrieve a pair of Teal , after a run around he was soon steaming and a sight warmer than I was
  22. Please enlighten me and my fellow county man Mr Ditchman about a dodgy handshake please , we are not very streetwise and would love to know what go on outside of Norfolk As for the Red cartridges , no doubt like you I have used at sometime just about every colour cartridge in the rainbow and a few more on top of that, also some all brass cases , all of them connected at times and then there were times I wouldn't give them house room
  23. Another icon gone , but certainly won't be forgotton . Used his ole saying tonight when I got two Mallard out of three shots . ( Two out of three ain't bad ) R I P Meatloaf
  24. I couldn't agree with you more Rim Fire , transport for both guns and beaters is an important part of the shoot that is often taken for granted and dare I say overlooked . Up until three years ago I had spent just over 10 years driving the guns and looking after there needs with some seasons having over 30 shoots , we had , and still have a ex army lorry that is covered with a purpose made canvas cover with leather seats down the middle that can hold sixteen people sitting back to back , one major problem was when we first bought it was the air brakes , these were a night mare , if you touched the brakes they would loose air and it was like a delayed action when you stopped , I reported it as it was to me dangerous to drive and a worry when you were on public roads , the estate manager got a repair company to sort it out and two blokes took close on two days to sort the loss of air and renewing the brake pipes out . We then had to put in a map of the estate with a map reference so if we had a accident or needed help we could give details from the map of our location , we also installed a cordless alarm bell so I could be contacted if need be , on top of that the door at the back had a safety rail that had to be in place when the door was open . In the ten years or so when I was driving ( touch wood ) we never had one accident , or got stuck as that lorry would climb up a mountain and cross a river if it was asked to . I think the guns and guests felt a bit more relaxed with these safety devices installed , the next question is , should I had been driving it on a full ( un blemished ) car licence ? , foot note , I was employed by the estate at the time . MM
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