staffyspen Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Evening all, Had my feo call today finally after 8 weeks from postage date and 4 weeks of cashing the cheque to tell me the land I was told was passed for 22lr, by Staffordshire firearms, is actually not and will only be passed for 22 fac air. I have other land I can shoot air on but not lr, but will only be to my advantage if it's an open ticket, most likely won't be! Do I know settle for fac air, not my first choice, or try other options, possibly hushpower 20g as I'll be restricted to that land anyway? My perms are all golf courses, will only be for rabbit, mostly at night and they are quite lamp shy due to poachers! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berettacocker Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 If land surrounded by buildings / houses I can understand ,but if not? If they're lamp shy the 22lr won't make much difference anyway. Get the .22 FAC and try the stealthy approach . You might catch the poachers too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffyspen Posted May 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Ground is parallel with motorway but don't shoot that way anyway, also next to a county park/nature reserve but is a long course, can always shoot down or to a bank. I can shoot air over there at the moment, sub 12 but wanted that bit extra from the lr, fac air won't give me exactly what I desired. Also the cost of a fac air puts me off them when you take into account the whole kit!! That's why I was thinking maybe 20g hushpower but I have no experience with them, I do have sgc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malantone Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 I assume your golf courses are surrounded by housing, Lamp shy rabbits need NV then they don`t know your there, I`ve just bought a yukon photon 5x42 digital night vision £399 worth every penny, they are ok out to 40-50 yds with their own IR light source I bought additional light source to take me out to 100 yds+. I`ve seen a couple second hand for less money. good luck mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffyspen Posted May 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Not a house in 1/2 mile, it also private so no public highway either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 I suggest you ask your shooting organisation for advice and if you arent in one - join. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berettacocker Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) Your right FAC air is costly by comparison especially if you added night vision! Edited May 27, 2014 by Berettacocker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Where I shoot is between the m42 , a major golf course, a football stadium, and another major road . It's surrounded but passed for hmr/lr It's around 300 acres but only shoot able in a few places . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffyspen Posted May 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Strange, its around 200 acres with loads of safe shooting yet won't pass according to feo! Truly cheesed off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malantone Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Strange, its around 200 acres with loads of safe shooting yet won't pass according to feo! Truly cheesed off! I have a 9 hole golf course and didn`t have a problem passed for .22rf, this might sound stupid but does the FEO understand that all your shooting will be after dark. how about a couple of high seats, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjimlad Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 FAC air is costly compared to .22RF but less costly compared to a PCP which is not FAC rated ... there are a lot of reasonably priced FAC Air rifles about secondhand due to the limited market. I'd think it would be ideal for a golf course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerSim Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 I suggest you ask your shooting organisation for advice and if you arent in one - join. +1 - get them involved, and get some proper reasoned justification for the decision.... ATB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED BEARD Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 I'd say contact basc or whoever your with for advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) I understand you're a bit ****** off not getting 22lr accepted. But don't throw your toys out of the pram, FAC air is definitely worth it. There are plenty out there for not much more than a rimfire . I'm lucky enough to have a fair chunk of land to shoot over, and the FAC air gets more use/bags than all the shotguns/,22lr/.17hmr. I have an open licence, so can use it on the smallest of perms that are a bit much for the sub 12 HW100. Personally, I wouldn't bother with a 20g hushpower. Had one, too bulky, still noisy and IMHO,you won't increase bag on your golf course with one over an air rifle as you are still talking sub 12 air rifle ranges and the disturbance that goes with a shotgun. Get yourself an FAC air to start with, 28/30 ftlbs. Good out to 60 yards and more if you are competent Very quiet, and there is a chance they might give you an open cert for the air from the off. Seems a lot of forces do. That will open more opportunities. In the meantime, there is nothing to lose by asking your shooting org/BASC for advice as the others have said. Rimfires are good, but they are not the be all and end all. Edited May 28, 2014 by turbo33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffyspen Posted May 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Thanks for all the replies, I'll still be pursuing the 20g hush, if it doesn't work for the golf course it will be fine on the rats around the barns. I'll also apply for the fac air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Thanks for all the replies, I'll still be pursuing the 20g hush, if it doesn't work for the golf course it will be fine on the rats around the barns. I'll also apply for the fac air. That could be the reason your FEO said no to a rimfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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