Smiler23 Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Anybody got a link to a quarry identification list, I had previously seen one, think it was on the solway wild fillers site, can't seem to find it now, cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Take your pick. http://www.spaldingwildfowlers.co.uk/quarry.htm http://www.wildfowling.com/quarryid.htm http://www.wildfowling.co.uk/magazine/ident.htm http://kwacs.org.uk/quarry.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Try this one buddy http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=basc%20quarry%20guide&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbasc.org.uk%2Fwp-content%2Fplugins%2Fdownload-monitor%2Fdownload.php%3Fid%3D661&ei=6JXXU-BzqvTsBuXsgcgJ&usg=AFQjCNHPHZUO_TL2atyxGJK-wC4O_E2A0g&sig2=ph4rlPrglM49weTtSXdKDw&bvm=bv.71778758,d.ZGU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Just remember in some areas voluntary arrangements might be in place, effecting some legal quarry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Just remember in some areas voluntary arrangements might be in place, effecting some legal quarry Yes but voluntary agreement does not make a particular quarry illegal to shoot in the eyes of the law, you might well have a short stay in your particular club though ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Yes but voluntary agreement does not make a particular quarry illegal to shoot in the eyes of the law, you might well have a short stay in your particular club though ! The clue is in the word. We also risk upsetting others and this in turn risks the future sport so its good to check. There have also been legal regional restrictions and exemptions in the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler23 Posted July 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Thank you very much for them folks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reabrook Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 There have also been legal regional restrictions and exemptions in the past Have there? None spring instantly to mind other than cold weather suspensions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) Who shoots Coots and Moorhens? Edited July 29, 2014 by hoggysreels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie R Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Someone who's very hungry and not too fussy on what they eat?ncant imagine either is going taste too great? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 I wouldnt shoot one ever ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon 3 Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 We shoot the coots on a local fishing lake, the numbers there need to be seen to be believed! No matter how many we shoot it seems to make no real difference, this is more for pest control than sport as they are not the most difficult of birds to hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Have there? None spring instantly to mind other than cold weather suspensions. I am not sure cold weather restriction is fully law but we all abide by it, I am referring to things like the issue Egyptian geese, Whitefront geese etc. It gets a bit like Sunday fowling (complex and localised) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckman91 Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 I've got theses in an old wildfowling book and I think they are a good identification tool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reabrook Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 I am not sure cold weather restriction is fully law but we all abide by it, I am referring to things like the issue Egyptian geese, Whitefront geese etc. It gets a bit like Sunday fowling (complex and localised) The Cold Weather suspension certainly is Law its commencement is signed off by the Secretary of State http://jncc.defra.gov.uk/page-2894 Egyptian Geese are on the General Licence WML-GL06 for the whole of England nothing complex or localised. http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/Images/wml-gl06_tcm6-24151.pdf I'm assuming with Whitefronts you are referring to the situation in Wales which despite the best efforts of the Welsh Assembly remains entirely voluntary. http://basc.org.uk/blog/key-issues/greenland-white-fronted-geese-return-to-wales/ There are other localised moratorium such as all grey geese and Shovelor on the Dyfi and Goldeneye on the Tweed but these are entirely voluntary and not upheld by law. The Counties and localities prohibiting Wildfowling on a Sunday are freely available with a quick google search. http://basc.org.uk/cop/wildfowling/ Though we all rightly abide by these local restrictions I don't think we should confuse them with the Law. Voluntary agreement works both ways and we give up to much without a fight and through misinformation as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler23 Posted July 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Thanks for taking the time to post them duckman ,cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 The Cold Weather suspension certainly is Law its commencement is signed off by the Secretary of State http://jncc.defra.gov.uk/page-2894 Egyptian Geese are on the General Licence WML-GL06 for the whole of England nothing complex or localised. http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/Images/wml-gl06_tcm6-24151.pdf I'm assuming with Whitefronts you are referring to the situation in Wales which despite the best efforts of the Welsh Assembly remains entirely voluntary. http://basc.org.uk/blog/key-issues/greenland-white-fronted-geese-return-to-wales/ There are other localised moratorium such as all grey geese and Shovelor on the Dyfi and Goldeneye on the Tweed but these are entirely voluntary and not upheld by law. The Counties and localities prohibiting Wildfowling on a Sunday are freely available with a quick google search. http://basc.org.uk/cop/wildfowling/ Though we all rightly abide by these local restrictions I don't think we should confuse them with the Law. Voluntary agreement works both ways and we give up to much without a fight and through misinformation as it is. No point getting into the barrack room stuff, I can argue some of this but the point is voluntary or Law or bylaw or whatever else title we give stuff, I think we should know and comply if and were/when it effects us- I haven't seen even seen an Egyptian goose in the wild for instance and I am almost sure it was originally a local GL the first I know of, we all know in wildfowling I feel the GL has become a misrepresented conservation joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reabrook Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 No point getting into the barrack room stuff, I can argue some of this but the point is voluntary or Law or bylaw or whatever else title we give stuff, I think we should know and comply if and were/when it effects us- I haven't seen even seen an Egyptian goose in the wild for instance and I am almost sure it was originally a local GL the first I know of, we all know in wildfowling I feel the GL has become a misrepresented conservation joke Not quite sure what your getting at there. Of course we should know, understand and comply with laws, by-laws and voluntary moratorium. That was entirely my point but we should also be aware of the difference especially when quoting it to newcomers to the sport or outsiders. We don't see Egyptian Geese in my part of the country either but it doesn't mean I don't need to understand the laws etc pertaining to them. I'd like to know what parts of my post you feel you could argue against? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry P Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Your right about giving up things to easily or without a fight. Due to the voluntary ban on shoot white fronts on the Dyfi, I let 2 skeins fly straight over me, it was awesome to see them. Yet wildfowlers get no credit for this decades long agreement. When the rspb tried to get the welsh government to make the vol ban law no mention was made of the fact that they had not been shot for years. Then w hen to be fair to the welsh government they said no and were happy with how it was, Iolo Williams went on a rant about how our government were one of few goverments that allow the slaughter of this goose. Its numbers are still on the decline dispite the vol ban but they still try to level the blame on fowlers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckman91 Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Thanks for taking the time to post them duckman ,cheers No worries mate glad I could help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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