rbrowning2 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 This is like listening to a drunken pub conversation between halfwits. I really cant see what this is gaining other than 'no such thing as bad pr' for the man handloading in his shed. Been on the forum what, a few months, and still can write a sentence? Fister careful who you are calling halfwits or you will be branded a spy, now where did I store all my ex-MI5 gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 My opinion is now that George is selling powder shot and wads cheap every one in the retail trade is getting all bitter and twisted Deershooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 What part of the same explosive licence is available from the police and trading standards don't you understand Deershooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Licences and registration Registration is a simplified process designed for those wanting to store smaller quantities of explosives. This includes most shops selling fireworks during firework season and suppliers of shotgun cartridges. You can store up to 250kg of the least hazardous fireworks. For more hazardous explosives the amount you can keep with a registration is reduced. Who is the Licensing authority? No more than 2,000kg of explosives stored: Lincolnshire Police if you also require a Control of Explosives Licence. Lincolnshire County Council Trading Standards Department if a Control of Explosives Licence is not required. Health and Safety Executive (HSE) if storage in mine or harbour Taken from gov.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 wow. as far as i can tell, i couldnt care what profit George is making, the end result is cheaper powder and lead on my end. mr browning, i have a few concerns about this post. We'll I will leave it, mr I am not greedy [.com] when you are making by my calculations from reading your post [not easy] £700 per hourYet York guns in the back of the current cpsa pull magazine say they sell cartridges as a lost leader.So why not make still a respectable £120 per hour and let the retailer make a reasonable profit and the shooter enjoy cheaper cartridges? if george sold any cartridges at cut throat price that will just please the retailers more, there prices will just stay the same. the retailers will gain all the additional profit. when the vat went up to 20%, prices jumped up silly. thats not in anyones control but the retailers.... let me put this in an experience i had in a shop. there is no secret, i buy shells, i use shells, i reload, and i reload for fun. i walked into a shop, wanted fibre 1oz #6 for my new sxs that i had. i selected a shell, "hull sterling game" asked how much a box, £10. thats a tenner for 25. i calculated that as 40 boxes, £400/ k. i was flabbergasted.com, £400 !!!! these shells are just normal bangers, jc has the equivalent as £270/k. and i am constantly told there is no money in cartridges !! thats £130 just on 1000 shells ! that was 5 years or more ago ! retailers can charge what they like. full stop. after that i reloaded more then started shopping elsewhere. i can even take the £200/k to make them because i`m saving £200/k in the longrun. (thats if i shopped at that particular shop) you see people are greedy....... real greedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 not sticking up for any body cookie but I am sure you would have got a better rate buying a 1000 yes if 40 people had walked in then he would have made the money you say but but but lets not divert the thread this is not about quantities of carts thanks george Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 My opinion is now that George is selling powder shot and wads cheap every one in the retail trade is getting all bitter and twisted Deershooter He is not that cheap I have been buying my plastic wads for less than £20 from my nearly local supplier for a few years now, Yes his powder is cheaper but again deals are to be had. His shot is a good price but I know my local dealer has just done a deal to buy direct from the manufacture and can then sell for less than £2.50 per kg. But a price war is not always good for the customer, George is a maverick, he states it is more like a hobby than a business so one assumes does not need the money to live on. So yes can sell at any price he likes. True business who make a living out of what they do would not want to enter a price war which will make it difficult for them to invest in their business and employ staff and invest in the sport by sponsoring shooting. Yes in the short term you may get cheaper reloading components but what price in the long term when other suppliers fail and finally the big cartridge manufacture eat George up - then you will have no reloading. He is also using the forum to encourage members who are ex or may or still do work in the cartridge industry to part with years of commercial knowledge to benefit his business. This is a fragile industry look at the gun shops that have gone over the last few years my local RFD may be next – he does not get £700 per hour profit from cartridge sales. So what do you do for a living? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 well between taking on the world single handed and having to go for typing lessons and asking bona fide people to join in with me to get a good rate for shipping powder when it does indeed look like powder will be going up in price yet again according to some different posts on here how can I finish oh yes mine is still £30 per kilo inc vat thank you all george Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 wow. as far as i can tell, i couldnt care what profit George is making, the end result is cheaper powder and lead on my end. mr browning, i have a few concerns about this post. if george sold any cartridges at cut throat price that will just please the retailers more, there prices will just stay the same. the retailers will gain all the additional profit. when the vat went up to 20%, prices jumped up silly. thats not in anyones control but the retailers.... let me put this in an experience i had in a shop. there is no secret, i buy shells, i use shells, i reload, and i reload for fun. i walked into a shop, wanted fibre 1oz #6 for my new sxs that i had. i selected a shell, "hull sterling game" asked how much a box, £10. thats a tenner for 25. i calculated that as 40 boxes, £400/ k. i was flabbergasted.com, £400 !!!! these shells are just normal bangers, jc has the equivalent as £270/k. and i am constantly told there is no money in cartridges !! thats £130 just on 1000 shells ! that was 5 years or more ago ! retailers can charge what they like. full stop. after that i reloaded more then started shopping elsewhere. i can even take the £200/k to make them because i`m saving £200/k in the longrun. (thats if i shopped at that particular shop) you see people are greedy....... real greedy. Not sure I agree Cookoff pick up any shooting magazine CPSA pull for example and you read letters saying how the number of people shooting is falling due to the high price of shooting so why would the retailer not want to pass these savings on to get more people shooting or more people shooting more frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) I have just emailed a man in the know. Hi fister, returning the post back to the subject matter did you get a reply? Edited August 5, 2014 by rbrowning2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 righty ho lads I have got new typist and good sppellor I mean good speller now that we have established the fact that canister powder may go up due to one reason or another I am going to start a new fred called ....... if you were me keep watching powder still 30 pounds per kilo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Well george got D- for spelling and the new person C- but have not fixed the space bar prob lem. And who is this fred person you are going to start with, you may get locked up for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Any one heard of any changes due in the the sizes of powder for reloading down to 500gram containers. Heard a rumor that there maybe changes a foot. But can't find anything definate. Figgy Anyway going back to this post the first one !!! instead of how someone types spells uses the space bar or any other subject lol Yes apparently it is right as clay and game have been selling it in 500g tubs for a short while now and i am 99% sure that all there powder store is small 500g tubs. And at the same price as before and if you want 2kg you can have 2kg its just in 4 tubs. I was told why it has been done but i have had a sleep since then i will ask again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 That is enough squabbling from everyone involved. Any more and the topic gets locked, and the same goes for the other topics running in this section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
propercartridges Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 hello mr zapp now you can see its not me hear I am offering my services for free and all I get is pulled up over my spelling mis steaks and you see I am such a nice person deep down now this hear fred was started by twiggy and it has deviated by the others I George am interested in trying to keep the price down so that's that its just not me so I have had my say I have started another one so can you keep toot on them for spoiling it I think there r lots of spies on hear and hidden trade members trying to pull me down any way mr zapp coming down your way before the weekend to hamphshire want sum powder 30 pounds per kilo rifle as well as shotgun can you keep an eye on those while I am away trying to make sum carts and shooting sum pigeons look at all the hits its getting more hits than the beatils or beetles see you later thanks George don't forget your order of powder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 My comment was aimed at everybody arguing on this thread, including you. Personal disagreements should be dealt with via the personal messenger, not on the open forum, otherwise threads end up getting ruined beyond the point where we can meaningfully tidy them up. I'm closing this one now, but once again, everyone involved in the current bickering on this section should think about what they are posting and whether it is relevant to the thread in question. Derailment of threads is against the terms of the user agreement and will be dealt with as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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