new to the flock Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 >>RAISIN POISONING IN DOGS >> >> (Below written by a vet) >> >> This week I had the first case in history of raisin >>toxicity >>ever seen at MedVet. My patient was a 56-pound, 5 yr old male >>neutered lab mix who ate half a canister of raisins sometime >>between 7:30 AM and 4:30 PM on Tuesday. He started with vomiting, >>diarrhea and shaking about 1AM on Wednesday but the owner didn't >>call my emergency service until 7AM. >> >> I had heard somewhere about raisins AND grapes causing >>acute >>Renal failure but hadn't seen any formal paper on the subject. >>We had her bring the dog in immediately. In the meantime, I >>called the ER service at MedVet, and the doctor there was like >>me - had heard something about it, but....Anyway, we contacted >>the ASPCA National Animal Poison Control Center and they said to >>give IV fluids at 1 Ã,½ times maintenance and watch the kidney >>values for the next 48-72 hours. >> >> The dog's BUN (blood urea nitrogen level) was already >>at 32 >>(normal less >> than 27) and creatinine over 5 ( 1.9 is the high end of >>normal). >>Both are monitors of kidney function in the bloodstream. We >>placed an IV catheter and started the fluids. Rechecked the >>renal values at 5 PM and the BUN was over 40 and creatinine >>over 7 with no urine production after a liter of fluids. At the >>point I felt the dog was in acute renal failure and sent him on >>to MedVet for a urinary catheter to monitor urine output >>overnight as well as overnight care. >> >> He started vomiting again overnight at MedVet and his >>renal >>values have >> continued to increase daily. He produced urine when >>given lasix >>as a diuretic. He was on 3 different anti-vomiting medications >>and they still couldn't control his vomiting. Today his urine >>output decreased again, his BUN was over 120, his creatinine was >>at 10, his phosphorus was very elevated and his blood pressure, >>which had been staying around 150, skyrocketed to 220.. He >>continued to vomit and the owners elected to euthanize. >> >> This is a very sad case - great dog, great owners who >>had no >>idea raisins could be a toxin. Please alert everyone you know >>who has a dog of this very serious risk. Poison control said as >>few as 7 raisins or grapes could be toxic. Many people I know >>give their dogs grapes or raisins as treats including our >>ex-handler's. Any exposure should give rise to immediate >>concern. >> >> Laurinda Morris, DVM >> Danville Veterinary Clinic >> Danville, Ohio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darebear Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 bloody hell! i have sat and peeled grapes for moose-man! i'm a terrible mother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren m Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 ****e i gave my dogs some raisins last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v-max Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Hello yes there was a bit a month or so ago in a mag about bad stuff for dog's ie chocolate/rasin's/grape's & old apple's ie formenting & alcohol starting & alcohol is bad to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_HMR Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 I give my dog chocolate the whole time and it doesnt seem to affect her and was told chocolate is particularly bad for boxers although she'd eat anything. Theres often coins yes coins in her poo have also found lots of rubber bands and coke bottle labels to name a few Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russuk Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 I give my dog chocolate the whole time and it doesnt seem to affect her and was told chocolate is particularly bad for boxers although she'd eat anything. Theres often coins yes coins in her poo have also found lots of rubber bands and coke bottle labels to name a few Theobromine a compound in chocolate is toxic to dogs, however only in sufficient quantities. A toxic dose for milk chocolate is about 1 ounce per 1 pound of the dog's body weight. So by my poor maths skills, an average 20lbs dog would show signs of toxicity after eating around 1lbs/450g of milk chocolate. However, smaller amounts can cause a bit of Deli belly, and I wouldn't like to think what feeding a dog "human" chocolate does to it's digestive system over a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryhawk Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 My ex-fiance's basset hound got in the kitchen cupboard and ate a bag of raisens when young, they fermented in no time. The dog was ill for a long time (touch and go if she'd make it). After a long time she made a recovery but had to be fed veggie dog food as her kidneys couldn't take rich meat food. Basset hounds are mad as a box of frogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novice cushie shooter Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 what a sad case, there was an article about it is shooting times around 4 weeks ago, some handlers give their dogs mars bars for energy during a working day, this is fine as the cocoa % in a mars bar is low but your dark chocolate at 74% is rich and given in any quantity to a dog can have serious effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v-max Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Hello if you work dog's & like to feed at lunch time etc cheap custard in a carton like orange juice is great as custard is high energy ie glucose & in a carton easy to carry.I got from a friend 2 Hill's science plan travel tub's ie 2 bowl's water/food water container & food prety good will put up a pick some time iv used it & find it good for shoot's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted February 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 what a sad case, there was an article about it is shooting times around 4 weeks ago, some handlers give their dogs mars bars for energy during a working day, this is fine as the cocoa % in a mars bar is low but your dark chocolate at 74% is rich and given in any quantity to a dog can have serious effects. Ya beat me too it mate It all depends on the quality of chocolate that you feed them. If you are feeding a low grade chocolate that has no real coca and is made up of mostly wax than the dog will be able to tolerate large quantities. However if you feed them "GOOD" chocolate than you will kill them with very little. NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 so dogs don't have the same metabolism as women then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 so dogs don't have the same metabolism as women then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted February 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 so dogs don't have the same metabolism as women then? Doh I will do my best to keep Trix from seeing that Mate But dont blame me if your good Misses gets an email from her NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v-max Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Hello here is pic of my travel pack it is 7"x5" & iv found it qutie handy. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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