Gun Watch Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Higham and son Damascus Off ticket Wall hanger £225 14 bore Shotgun Trade Seller Used - Poor Condition Kettering , Northamptonshire Hammer, Cylinder, Cylinder, 25" barrels Description Well ! No good as a Zombie gun !!! "Off ticket" Obsolete caliber antique so No license required ! Stunning wood but it has a slight chip missing on the left side under the lock and its missing its extractor Very unusual safety catch !you have to squeeze the trigger gaurd to operate it This gun is being sold by Pigeon Watch member wabbitbosher. Message them here View all the gun sale details on Gun Watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chacotawas Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 I beg to differ. That's exactly what that is- A ZOMBIE GUN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbitbosher Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 I beg to differ. That's exactly what that is- A ZOMBIE GUN. LOL !! But you cant have it as a Zombie gun and have it off ticket ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Unless its a Zombie apocalysp then the Law can take a running jump LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew f Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 could club them with it I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimmie Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Can you get 14 bore cases for reloading ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbitbosher Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Can you get 14 bore cases for reloading ? Yes "BUT" if you want to load them or even fire it it has to go on ticket, if you get caught with live cartridges and the gun in your possession you are likley to be in Deep Do Do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 If it's only a wall hanger better being deactivated, no legal problems then. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHOOTEMUP Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 Yes "BUT" if you want to load them or even fire it it has to go on ticket, if you get caught with live cartridges and the gun in your possession you are likley to be in Deep Do Do Minimum five years now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimmie Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 I know the legalities, just wondering about cases as it's a shame not to have it shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 (edited) The problem may be with buying it on ticket is it would need to be in proof, off ticket barrels can be nice to look at on the outside but be to thin or excessively pitted inside to be in proof Would make a fantastic wall hanger, if it suits the obsolete rule why decommission Edited September 6, 2014 by Paul223 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bb Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 The problem may be with buying it on ticket is it would need to be in proof, off ticket barrels can look nice to look at on the outside but be to thin or excessively pitted inside to be in proof Would make a fantastic wall hanger, if it suits the obsolete rule why decommission Because there's a possibility that it's not obsolete if cartridges can be made for it. If I were buying it I'd either have it "on ticket" or deactivated. And if "on ticket" it can't be hung on a wall and admired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Because there's a possibility that it's not obsolete if cartridges can be made for it. If I were buying it I'd either have it "on ticket" or deactivated. And if "on ticket" it can't be hung on a wall and admired. I disagree, can you walk into any shooting shop and buy 14 bore off the shelf? NoAt auction possibly some collectors cartridges yes but they are few and far between. Any ammo could in theory be made for any obsolete caliber, but let's not stop there, if your engineering skills are good enough to make obsolete cases then you could probably make a workable gun anyway, he'll what's stopping even the most rudimentary scaffold tube being capped with some flat bar and a ring of weld, a small pin hole drilled in the top and stuff it full of black powder tissue and nails, them put a match to the hole! Laws and rules need to be kept 'real' hence why a 14 bore will be off ticket, you cannot go into an rfd and buy ready made up ammo, I seriously doubt any of the manufacturers list it any more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 And I found this >>>>>>>> Part I: Old weapons which should benefit from exemption as antiques under section 58 (2) of the Firearms Act 1968 c) Breech-loading firearms using ignition systems other than rimfire and centerfire (These include pin-fire and needle-fire ignition systems, as well as the more obscure lip fire, cup-primed, teat fire and base fire systems); e) Vintage (pre 1939) rifles, shotguns and punt guns chambered for the following cartridges expressed in imperial measurements: 32 bore 24 bore, 14 bore, 10 bore (5/8″ and 2 7/8″ only), 8 bore, 4 bore, 3 bore, 2 bore, 1 1/8 bore, 1 1/4 bore and 1 1/2 bore, and vintage punt guns and shotguns with bores of 10 or greater. <<<<< I've left in the pin fire bit to because cartridges for them quite often come up in auction too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimmie Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Micksguns.com Eley paper cased 14 bore cartriges £70.00 per box of 25 !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbitbosher Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 There are Collectors and RFD's everywhere that possess obsloete caliber rounds , IF your gun is "on ticket" you are within the law to reload rounds or possess rounds and discharge it , if your Gun is "Off ticket" your NOT ! the Law is plain and simple This is For Sale "Off Ticket" I will still want to see the buyer face to face and some ID with proof of age please ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 I'm sure I read that the obsolete calibre rules are being tightened up ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 General Shooting Matters is the place to discuss matters of firearms law, not on a RFD's paid for advertsment. Take it there please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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