johnphilip Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 i have had a gdk auto trap for about a year now always wanted a remote control for it , but the price always put me of .last week was in maplin saw one that looked good quality for £35 thought it was worth a punt . well wired it up and it works great even out to about 100 yards so made a great saving . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garygreengrass Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Any chance of more detail ?,Would like one of them myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted September 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 yes will find it for you, if you need any help with the wiring give me a shout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted September 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 here we go http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/quasar-single-channel-wireless-remote-control-kit-l26bk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 That's very interesting as a fix can they do other modes apart from momentary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted September 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Hi Daf it does latching aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Ok that's interesting may be useful for wobbler kits as well then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorismyhero Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Please be aware guys that when switching DC supplies, 12 or 24v the current it can switch is LESS than the 240v ac current Reason...... ac passes through zero volta every 50th of a second so any arc that tries to establish across the contacts is extinguished. DC on the other hand does not do this, so any arc continues....which can result in either fire at worst or welded contacts. I would derate this item to 6A max at 12/24 volts...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 This could be good http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/quasar-four-channel-wireless-remote-control-kit-a56jn whats the current draw of a trap? not very much? The specs should list switching current at DC as well. 2/3 is normal due RMS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 How much current does a trap need to switch to trigger a pull? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Depends how the trap works but i doubt high current. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted September 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Please be aware guys that when switching DC supplies, 12 or 24v the current it can switch is LESS than the 240v ac current Reason...... ac passes through zero volta every 50th of a second so any arc that tries to establish across the contacts is extinguished. DC on the other hand does not do this, so any arc continues....which can result in either fire at worst or welded contacts. I would derate this item to 6A max at 12/24 volts...... Can you put this in laymans turn, i dont have a clue what you are on about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 AC works different to DC so if trap is DC (battery powered or transformer) don't use the AC (mains) current rating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 John just read the online question Maplins say not to use this with 12V they recommend a different kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorismyhero Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Can you put this in laymans turn, i dont have a clue what you are on about difficult withoput a drawing but basically ac (alternating current) which is what comes out of your mains socket changes direction (goes from positive to negative ) 50 times a second... DC (which is what your batteries make) is always steady . that makes it harder for the contacts to switch the current..and "can" cause problems Agree with HDAV that the theoretical derating is 2/3rds.... (actually 1/ root 2 but hey whos worried about minute detail lol) but being "belt and braces, and disliking running things at "max" I usually go for 1/2 (over engineering possibly but......) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark@mbb Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Our Promatic has the up and down motion and the remote we got was from ebay and it works out to 150yds we fit on the forks of a 7 meter tele handler and we still can't hit the clays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Depends how the trap works but i doubt high current. Most of the 12v relays I've seen are rated to 5A. I doubt there would be a problem with a battery operated trap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorismyhero Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) dont think the remote is going to help you with that problem mark......... Edited September 19, 2014 by victorismyhero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorismyhero Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Considering may traps at clay grounds are run off batteries, and dont get recharged all day, I doubt they ARE high current tbh....I was merely offering a matter of safety and experience when using relays/ switches showing ac ratings, with DC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted September 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 John just read the online question Maplins say not to use this with 12V they recommend a different kit. Hi daf it worked fine i had the trap set up in my back garden and walked around to the front of the house. It even worked with no line of site. I started walking up the lane from the house, and things were in the way i must have got 100 yards away and it still worked. Then took it onto the field and fired about a 100 clays it worked great. My mate down in wales has the same trap and he got the remote with his trap, i have seen him have problems with his not working all the time. Plus this one looks better quality. I suppose time will tell. Oh hows the fly casting going lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Considering may traps at clay grounds are run off batteries, and dont get recharged all day, I doubt they ARE high current tbh....I was merely offering a matter of safety and experience when using relays/ switches showing ac ratings, with DC. Battery operated traps do draw high currents to arm the trap as the throwing arm has to move into position against the strong throwing spring = work done = energy. However they have a high current relay in the control box which is used to switch the high current to the motor to arm the trap. The low current relay coil is used to fire the trap and hence the radio remotes should work fine. Just may be do not let them get wet as they may not be water proofed like the commercial radio trap remotes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted September 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 i am now finding it better can do lots more rather than just down the line can do incommers and stuff .......and less chance of hitting the wife as she is stood next to the trap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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