nicknsd1978 Posted January 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 Thanks for everyone's great advice it's really helping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 (edited) In 90% of cases the problem is that the shooter does not understand the true function of a bead. They believe its an aiming device and mount their gun with their head forward and buried so they see only the back of the action with a bead protruding. In this situation two things happen. One is that because the gun's action is blocking most of the lower half of the peripheral vision, even if they are right eye dominant, the brain says "I cant see fully" and fills in the missing part of the vision by switching partially or fully to the off eye. The other is that in order to try to see the true sight picture the shooter needs to pull focal vision back from the target to the bead, so the target blurs for a moment and they inevitably slow the swing and miss behind. The cure in both cases is to raise the comb and/or adopt a more upright head position. The true aiming device of a gun is the awareness of the rib tapering away from you in the lower periphery vision, and the eye's whole pupil should be a minimum of 3mm ( the £1-00 coin test) high on the rear of the rib so you look OVER the bead, not through it. The bead should only be used for a dry mount before taking the shot. During the actual swing the focus stays entirely on the target with the focal vision, and the lead or sight picture is seen to be correct by virtue of the fact the periphery vision sees the rib tapering away and POINTING into the kill zone with appropriate forward allowance. Easy-hits and similar devices have their uses, but they are not instant cures, and only provide any benefit if the other principles are understood and are in use. Their true function of a glow bead is as an eye/brain training device. When the correct eye has taken the "aim" over the rib, the brain knows this because it registers the glow down the tube. Its not seen if the off-eye takes focus, or the shooting eye is not directly aligned. The 3mm high still allows the "glow" to be seen, and over a period of time the brain learns to use that eye and stops switching. In theory, when used as a eye training device, the glow bead can retrain the brain to always use the shooting eye and can ultimately be dispensed with, as anyone who "sees bead" when they shoot is prone to back focus to it and slow the gun at the critical moment, missing behind every time. Exactly as with recoil problems as well as eye problems, many believe that the equipment is at fault and fiddling with after-market cures will fix what is in fact entirely a user issue - almost always poor mount, stance and technique. Its been said many times before - its usually far better to spend you hard earned cash to get good training and advice from a competent coach, before you rush out trying to fix problems with bolt on cures. Sometimes these may have a function, but let an expert advise that before guessing yourself. Edited January 17, 2015 by clayman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominicrobed Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Load of poo and waist of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 In 90% of cases the problem is that the shooter does not understand the true function of a bead. They believe its an aiming device and mount their gun with their head forward and buried so they see only the back of the action with a bead protruding. In this situation two things happen. One is that because the gun's action is blocking most of the lower half of the peripheral vision, even if they are right eye dominant, the brain says "I cant see fully" and fills in the missing part of the vision by switching partially or fully to the off eye. The other is that in order to try to see the true sight picture the shooter needs to pull focal vision back from the target to the bead, so the target blurs for a moment and they inevitably slow the swing and miss behind. The cure in both cases is to raise the comb and/or adopt a more upright head position. The true aiming device of a gun is the awareness of the rib tapering away from you in the lower periphery vision, and the eye's whole pupil should be a minimum of 3mm ( the £1-00 coin test) high on the rear of the rib so you look OVER the bead, not through it. The bead should only be used for a dry mount before taking the shot. During the actual swing the focus stays entirely on the target with the focal vision, and the lead or sight picture is seen to be correct by virtue of the fact the periphery vision sees the rib tapering away and POINTING into the kill zone with appropriate forward allowance. Easy-hits and similar devices have their uses, but they are not instant cures, and only provide any benefit if the other principles are understood and are in use. Their true function of a glow bead is as an eye/brain training device. When the correct eye has taken the "aim" over the rib, the brain knows this because it registers the glow down the tube. Its not seen if the off-eye takes focus, or the shooting eye is not directly aligned. The 3mm high still allows the "glow" to be seen, and over a period of time the brain learns to use that eye and stops switching. In theory, when used as a eye training device, the glow bead can retrain the brain to always use the shooting eye and can ultimately be dispensed with, as anyone who "sees bead" when they shoot is prone to back focus to it and slow the gun at the critical moment, missing behind every time. Exactly as with recoil problems as well as eye problems, many believe that the equipment is at fault and fiddling with after-market cures will fix what is in fact entirely a user issue - almost always poor mount, stance and technique. Its been said many times before - its usually far better to spend you hard earned cash to get good training and advice from a competent coach, before you rush out trying to fix problems with bolt on cures. Sometimes these may have a function, but let an expert advise that before guessing yourself. Very informative post, thanks for that!! Cos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 In 90% of cases the problem is that the shooter does not understand the true function of a bead. They believe its an aiming device and mount their gun with their head forward and buried so they see only the back of the action with a bead protruding. In this situation two things happen. One is that because the gun's action is blocking most of the lower half of the peripheral vision, even if they are right eye dominant, the brain says "I cant see fully" and fills in the missing part of the vision by switching partially or fully to the off eye. The other is that in order to try to see the true sight picture the shooter needs to pull focal vision back from the target to the bead, so the target blurs for a moment and they inevitably slow the swing and miss behind. The cure in both cases is to raise the comb and/or adopt a more upright head position. The true aiming device of a gun is the awareness of the rib tapering away from you in the lower periphery vision, and the eye's whole pupil should be a minimum of 3mm ( the £1-00 coin test) high on the rear of the rib so you look OVER the bead, not through it. The bead should only be used for a dry mount before taking the shot. During the actual swing the focus stays entirely on the target with the focal vision, and the lead or sight picture is seen to be correct by virtue of the fact the periphery vision sees the rib tapering away and POINTING into the kill zone with appropriate forward allowance. Easy-hits and similar devices have their uses, but they are not instant cures, and only provide any benefit if the other principles are understood and are in use. Their true function of a glow bead is as an eye/brain training device. When the correct eye has taken the "aim" over the rib, the brain knows this because it registers the glow down the tube. Its not seen if the off-eye takes focus, or the shooting eye is not directly aligned. The 3mm high still allows the "glow" to be seen, and over a period of time the brain learns to use that eye and stops switching. In theory, when used as a eye training device, the glow bead can retrain the brain to always use the shooting eye and can ultimately be dispensed with, as anyone who "sees bead" when they shoot is prone to back focus to it and slow the gun at the critical moment, missing behind every time. Exactly as with recoil problems as well as eye problems, many believe that the equipment is at fault and fiddling with after-market cures will fix what is in fact entirely a user issue - almost always poor mount, stance and technique. Its been said many times before - its usually far better to spend you hard earned cash to get good training and advice from a competent coach, before you rush out trying to fix problems with bolt on cures. Sometimes these may have a function, but let an expert advise that before guessing yourself. My compliments clayman. This is probably the best post on this subject that I've ever seen on any shotgun forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Thank you both for the compliment www.jparksclayshooting.co.uk Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangeclay Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Nicknsd1978, If you understand the function of the easyhit then I don,t think you need one. Easyhit was made to correct cross dominance by catching the ;on; eye with the barrel. Well,unfortunatelly ;the sides; effects to use one cancel the entire value of it. Having one on the gun, will teach you to check the barrel anytime you mount the gun by swtiching focus from the target to the barrel. You have to consider that the cross dominate person sees not only the bead but the barrel and the reciever as well. In other words the cross dominance will stay in place anyway. Remember, we point the gun when shooting moving targets and we aim when shooting still targets. If you aim a moving target you will shoot always under your potantial. If you are cross dominate then there are other ways to help you. If you are, first thing to start with is switchingt sides on which you mount the gun for the purpose to work with your dominate eye and binocular vision. Don,t forget to fit the gun if you change sides. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 The Easyhit light beam is not as narrow as the old SinglePoint from years ago. Before sticking it on, check that you are not seeing anything of it in the wrong eye. If you are, consider moving it down the barrel towards your eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevy Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 As Clayman has so intellectually put . go spend your cash on a good coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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