Joshua1993 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Hello everyone, Soon I will be looking to buy my first proper bike. I say that because I've only owned a 125 before and only had it a few months and rode it once. I've been toying with the idea of getting a road legal supermoto/enduro bike as I would love to go down some green lanes and do a little off roading. My concern is that I want something fairly light and reliable. I see most of these bikes require a lot of maintenance, I don't mind doing some work myself but I don't want to be doing an oil change ect.. every few outings. I've been looking at the following 4 bikes in particular but I would be grateful if anyone could offer some advice: WR250 - They seem quite costly and require quite a lot of work DRZ 400 - Very reliable and great all round but they are quite expensive, hard to find and are a little heavy. CRF250 KTM 250 Thanks for reading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelongwayup Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 I've had 3 of those bikes. Wr250 - nipped up twice on me and I was meticulous with maintenance as I raced it. Hated being started if hot and requires oil changes and Pistons regularly. Think I did Pistons at 40-50 hours use. Same as the crf and ktm I had. Drz is heavy but reasonably reliable. Oil doesn't need changing as often either same with piston. Have you looked at a Honda xr for road and trail? Far better if you're doing more road work than the more specific enduro bikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua1993 Posted February 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) I've had 3 of those bikes. Wr250 - nipped up twice on me and I was meticulous with maintenance as I raced it. Hated being started if hot and requires oil changes and Pistons regularly. Think I did Pistons at 40-50 hours use. Same as the crf and ktm I had. Drz is heavy but reasonably reliable. Oil doesn't need changing as often either same with piston. Have you looked at a Honda xr for road and trail? Far better if you're doing more road work than the more specific enduro bikes. Thanks for your reply. Ah, that's what really puts me off buying this style of bike as I was originally looking for a naked street bike - but I would really like to go a little off road, nothing to serious though. I've just had a look at the XR's, there doesn't seem that many around and they look quite old. I'm guessing they only have a kick start to so not quite what I'm looking for. The DRZ looks like the best option so far. Edited February 21, 2015 by Joshua1993 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69chris Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 i had a drz400 for ages, it was an E model so didnt have indicators, decent speedo etc and had the better flatslide carb + other more 'off roady' stuff, other than 1 oil + filter change every 6 months it needed nothing, another good en was my crm250..... just fed it decent 2t oil and the occasional spark plug when starting went to 3 or more kicks and it was faultless or for something older, reliable, fun and fast enough...... i had a mtx125 when i was 17 but never had the 200 so i bought one a while ago to scratch that itch, obvs not as focused as the others but just nice for a gentle plod along a greenlane or to blat to work on a nice morning to help start the day with a grin on your face Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua1993 Posted February 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) i had a drz400 for ages, it was an E model so didnt have indicators, decent speedo etc and had the better flatslide carb + other more 'off roady' stuff, other than 1 oil + filter change every 6 months it needed nothing, another good en was my crm250..... just fed it decent 2t oil and the occasional spark plug when starting went to 3 or more kicks and it was faultless or for something older, reliable, fun and fast enough...... i had a mtx125 when i was 17 but never had the 200 so i bought one a while ago to scratch that itch, obvs not as focused as the others but just nice for a gentle plod along a greenlane or to blat to work on a nice morning to help start the day with a grin on your face Thanks for your response. Okay the DRZ400 is certainly winning it for me at the moment. Sorry but the MTX looks a little old and I've just looked at the prices, they seem quite rare now and expensive. Also sadly 2 stroke isn't really an option for me - so sorry to say this but I can't stand the sound of them, their like buzzy bees I appreciate the information Edited February 21, 2015 by Joshua1993 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbw1shrops Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Have you had a look at the ktm lc4 640 super Moto ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan. Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Ye I was gonna say KTM LC4 would be a very good shout! Slightly more power and loads more power to be had! Usually owned by someone who knows what they are doing too as its an enthusiast bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua1993 Posted February 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Thanks guys., the KTM looks good too. There are not many for sale but it is something else I can keep an eye out for. From what I've read KTM is a good make but when things go wrong the parts can be quite expensive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbw1shrops Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 I have one for sale ! 02 plate mint condition rare red 7300 On the clock ! Atb Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua1993 Posted February 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 I have one for sale ! 02 plate mint condition rare red 7300 On the clock ! Atb Dave Thanks for your response Dave, To be honest with you I wasn't looking to buy one until nearer May, as my Birthday is then and insurance will be cheaper for me. Out of curiosity though where are you and how much would you be after? Regards, Joshua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonniemax426 Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 If your not racing a wr 250 is perfect by 2006 on get the ally frame.. 450 even better coz I guarantee who ever had owned it before you wouldn't be able to ring the neck of it like most 250s. Very reliable capable bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbw1shrops Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Hi Joshua I am after 2k for the bike mate Atb Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua1993 Posted February 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 If your not racing a wr 250 is perfect by 2006 on get the ally frame.. 450 even better coz I guarantee who ever had owned it before you wouldn't be able to ring the neck of it like most 250s. Very reliable capable bike. Thanks for the advice. I certainly wouldn't be racing a WR250, nor would I go going fast. It does still worry me about the regular maintenance compared to a DRZ 400. Hi Joshua I am after 2k for the bike mate Atb Dave Thank you for your message. I appreciate the offer but to be honest with you I will probably wait a little while as I still haven't made my mind up for certain on what I want to buy (I don't want to make any rash decisions and regret it), you're quite a way from me as well (I'm located in Cambridge) and I still need to complete my MOD 2 in the next few weeks, just completed the MOD 1 today. Regards, Joshua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbw1shrops Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Ok Joshua mate no worries if you want any pictures of the bike just pm me your email address 👍 Atvb Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonniemax426 Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 End of the day it's not really any more maintenance than a drz mate honestly, all the same engine plus gearbox oil an filters. plug an air filter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldweld Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 I've a WR450 2004 unmolested with 1800km on the clock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxnet22 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 I have s Honda xr 400 r would highly recommend this bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua1993 Posted March 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) I've a WR450 2004 unmolested with 1800km on the clock Very nice! I would certainly consider the WR450 too. Is it for sale? I have s Honda xr 400 r would highly recommend this bike. I've had a look at those but there doesn't seem many around, probably due to their age. Edited March 2, 2015 by Joshua1993 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 have you checked out the honda fmx 650 there bombproof with honda reliability.....not a bad ride ive got one and love it so much more fun to ride that my old honda hornet 600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeastpete Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 I am looking too, for next year. I keeping my eye out for a ktm exc500 , possibly a yamaha wr450. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mick.j Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 As you don't want to do much or any maintenance, that rules out any KTM, Yamaha WR series, or any proper supermoto or enduro. Perhaps a CCM with the Suzuki DR engine, or an MZ Baghira with the Yamaha 660 engine would better suit your needs .As has been suggested a Honda FMX also fits the bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 KTM = Keep Taking Money WR or DR for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldweld Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Yes it's for Sale. Will have 12monts MOT and priced at £2990 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a303 Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 Forget the WR250F, too fragile and you really need to ride the wheels off them to get the best out of them. DRZ is the one to go for out the two although it's tame and heavy. Leave KTM alone unless you like spannering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldweld Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) Mine is a WR 450, if you try to ride the wheels off it. Hospital is the result Edited March 11, 2015 by coldweld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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