Ira Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Got one priced up today at my local gun shop £1940, I should get a bit of discount, its not something they would buy in as stock so would need to order which isn't a problem,bit of a wait, but I haven't even held one. is there anyone close to me, South East Kent, the Romney Marsh area with an A400 Xtreme that would mind me having a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adi786 Posted March 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 (edited) yup mate i know a shop in kent they will do good price for you Edited March 19, 2015 by adi786 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Handled both the A400 Extreme and the A300 Xtrema I bought the A300 Xtrema as its s fowling gun for me and I think it's the best fowling gun money can buy. To those who don't like the grips they're designed for grip in muddy conditions. Both guns have kick off in various forms, the A400 has another smaller device inside too. But what you like as both will do what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 well speaking as someone who has had both I would have to day ............... for me its the A300 Xtrema , I killed me A400 in around 7 months , yes I did abuse it , but only as in it got some heavy use , used nearly every day but it was always cleaned , the A400 is a lovely gun but its not as tough as other models out there , IMO the Xtrema is rock solid and has taken everything I have thrown at it , its a fast handling gun , very very fast cycling , the grips on stock and fore end are a revelation when it wet and muddy , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 first was almost all the reviews i've read you guys and few other websites didn't find even a single issue/ -ve review related this gun, second the best feature it has better than benneli vinci is kick off. I think the only -ve i've read for a400 is as it is too pricey, it only comes with 3 chokes... it felt slightly heavy as first time i lifted it as compared to my sx3... You could not have looked very hard , hopefully yours will be ok seems the biggest issue is around using 3.5" shells. I was wondering if anyone would know a fix to this problem. I bought a brand new A400 last season. Shot it through dove season with 2 3/4 inch shells and didn't have a problem. Went to Canada in October and first time using it up there it jammed every time I would shoot it. Sent it back to beretta and they fixed it by putting in a new ejector and machining some part I cant remember the name of. Anyways, now it shoots 2 3/4 and 3 inch shells flawlessly. I can shoot them all day and it will not jam. The only problem I am having is with 3 1/2 inch shells. It is totally random but out of a box of shells, usually five will jam. Its like the magazine is putting the new shell in the action before the gun can throw the shell I just shot. I have tried shooting it dirty and right after I cleaned it and it seems to do it regardless. Just wondering if anyone has a fix to this or has any ideas to try. Forgot to add that I am shooting Fiochi and Federal Ultra shocks and it does it with both. Thanks! Recently I purchased an A400 Xtreme (brand new). Gun functioned flawlessly shooting 2.75" & 3" loads. 3.5" loads it would jam every 2nd shot. Any one having problems with A400's jamming on 3.5" shells?? I'm not having good luck at all with these guns as the current one I have now, is #3 and all have jammed on 3.5" shells. New last year, toward the end of the year is started to not feed the shell in properly. Since the start of this year it's done the same thing. It gets hung up about A quarter inch or half-inch after the release. 3 1/2 or 3in. Cleaned it used little oil, lots of oil, some oil, no oil, no difference. Cleaned the hell out of it, have been all through the mechanism, can't find anything that would hang it up, with no shells it's smooth as glass. Anyone have any experience with this or something similar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 mine started to jam with just about everything I put it in towards the end . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Got one priced up today at my local gun shop £1940, I should get a bit of discount, its not something they would buy in as stock so would need to order which isn't a problem,bit of a wait, but I haven't even held one. is there anyone close to me, South East Kent, the Romney Marsh area with an A400 Xtreme that would mind me having a look. thats not cheap, i phoned my three closest and all where a lot cheaper than that. best and as it happens closest shop to me did one for either £1500 or £1550... memory isnt the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adi786 Posted March 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 1500-1550 that be black one for sure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 no was the max-4 camo one steveo, what happened to yours? not seen any signs of issues with mine or heard of any others so im curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adi786 Posted March 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 mine started to jam with just about everything I put it in towards the end . Ill try to take a picture, the one i had on box it says initially it be best to use high power cartridges not lower 32g's i think they mentioned, they mentioned the gun is not made for low powered clay cartridges. But to get a start with gun they mentioned to use 32g's atleast... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Stevo put a lot of cartridges through his and he would have run it in right . As my post above the main issues seem to have been with 3.5" cartridges , the very ones the gun is suppose to be designed for , I know any gun can play up from time to time but for the price I would expect the A400 xtreme to be flawless whatever cartridge size you put in it . I have also seen several complaints about very poor welding on the bolt , not weak just ugly again not what you expect of a gun of that price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adi786 Posted March 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 yeh the main part i didnt' like was finishing considering price... i spoke to one of the guy in GMK yesterday re cleaning etc, he cleared one wrong conception " he said alot people have wrong conception i.e. cleaning shouldn't be done after every shoot as it'll ruin gun, he said that is bull**** after every shoot a gun should be cleaned, and should be cleaned properly upto trigger level after couple of shoots" whereas before i used to hear both feedbacks from guys half saying should not clean, half yes.... So cleaning matters a lot, a friend of mine had sx3 same issue cartridges started not cycling properly, he had a good cleaning done by someone... since than it is back cycling with no issues. But still agree considering how expensive a400's are they should have a bit higher standard more chokes should have come, better finishing. Infact the one i buy has visited GMK work shop to get gass release hole open in barrel.... though mine was bought in January... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 You could not have looked very hard , hopefully yours will be ok seems the biggest issue is around using 3.5" shells. I was wondering if anyone would know a fix to this problem. I bought a brand new A400 last season. Shot it through dove season with 2 3/4 inch shells and didn't have a problem. Went to Canada in October and first time using it up there it jammed every time I would shoot it. Sent it back to beretta and they fixed it by putting in a new ejector and machining some part I cant remember the name of. Anyways, now it shoots 2 3/4 and 3 inch shells flawlessly. I can shoot them all day and it will not jam. The only problem I am having is with 3 1/2 inch shells. It is totally random but out of a box of shells, usually five will jam. Its like the magazine is putting the new shell in the action before the gun can throw the shell I just shot. I have tried shooting it dirty and right after I cleaned it and it seems to do it regardless. Just wondering if anyone has a fix to this or has any ideas to try. Forgot to add that I am shooting Fiochi and Federal Ultra shocks and it does it with both. Thanks! Recently I purchased an A400 Xtreme (brand new). Gun functioned flawlessly shooting 2.75" & 3" loads. 3.5" loads it would jam every 2nd shot. Any one having problems with A400's jamming on 3.5" shells?? I'm not having good luck at all with these guns as the current one I have now, is #3 and all have jammed on 3.5" shells. New last year, toward the end of the year is started to not feed the shell in properly. Since the start of this year it's done the same thing. It gets hung up about A quarter inch or half-inch after the release. 3 1/2 or 3in. Cleaned it used little oil, lots of oil, some oil, no oil, no difference. Cleaned the hell out of it, have been all through the mechanism, can't find anything that would hang it up, with no shells it's smooth as glass. Anyone have any experience with this or something similar? You on a mission fenboy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) Ill try to take a picture, the one i had on box it says initially it be best to use high power cartridges not lower 32g's i think they mentioned, they mentioned the gun is not made for low powered clay cartridges. But to get a start with gun they mentioned to use 32g's atleast... As fenboy said. I put a lot of shells through mine. Always cleaned. It had a hard life but a clean one. Most of my shells were RC sipe 32 gram #5. Like I said I thought the gun was beautiful. Just not very tough in my opinion. I also confirm that he welding on the bolt was a bit naff. Not what I expected. But that said it easy to rip anything to bits if want to look hard enough. Edited March 20, 2015 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 As fenboy said. I put a lot of shells through mine. Always cleaned. It had a hard life but a clean one. Most of my shells were RC sipe 32 gram #5. Like I said I thought the gun was beautiful. Just not very tough in my opinion. I also confirm that he welding on the bolt was a bit naff. Not what I expected. But that said it easy to rip anything to bits if want to look hard enough. Totally agree with you Stevo. Our expectations are high, especially when something is comparatively expensive to something else, but in truth cost doesn't always come in to play. My brother in law bought a brand new car which cost £120k some 8 years ago, in two years it went back 26 times for various faults; Where is the logic in that? The other issue is that the internet can be a harsh place to do your homework on; I'm likely to come on here and say my gun misfired but wouldn't come on to say I fired 50 shells today and it was perfect. So you will see the negative side of anything more so that the positive. I for one know of two, one being mine, and neither have had an issue to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 You on a mission fenboy? Not at all , the OP can buy what ever gun he likes its of no concern to me , he was the one that said he can find no bad review , I knew there are and am pointing them out , I was also well aware that Stevo had one self destructing in a very short period. Can I ask how many 3.5" cartridges you have put through yours without issue ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adi786 Posted March 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 lol, well all guns has prons and cons, it's just the fact now a days all th etop end guns/options we have for semi's baretta's / winchester probably coming up with less defaults as compared to other manufacturers. If you looks for issues with other manufacturers ull find lots, whereas searching issues with Baretta a400 you wont find a lot. Hope the one i got wouldn't give any problems . Going to try tomorrow, will remind myself to put in couple 3"/3.5's to try.... hope crow/pigeon@close range wont explode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Not at all , the OP can buy what ever gun he likes its of no concern to me , he was the one that said he can find no bad review , I knew there are and am pointing them out , I was also well aware that Stevo had one self destructing in a very short period. Can I ask how many 3.5" cartridges you have put through yours without issue ? I'm winding you up mate!! To be fair I've only had a handful of 3.5" through mine, I didn't have any problems with those. I mainly pigeon shoot as you know, so my main cartridges since getting this gun have been anything from 28g 7.5's through to 32g 6's; Again I've not had any issues. lol, well all guns has prons and cons, it's just the fact now a days all th etop end guns/options we have for semi's baretta's / winchester probably coming up with less defaults as compared to other manufacturers. If you looks for issues with other manufacturers ull find lots, whereas searching issues with Baretta a400 you wont find a lot. Hope the one i got wouldn't give any problems . Going to try tomorrow, will remind myself to put in couple 3"/3.5's to try.... hope crow/pigeon@close range wont explode Don't forget to use 100 x 32g to start with as advised by Beretta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Not sure if a couple of cartridges will give you a accurate assessment . You are quite right , you will find bad review on any gun , I currently use a Versamax and several of the yanks call them Versacraps , yet I have had mine for a couple of years now and have never had a single jam or misfeed as yet , that is using everything from 28 gram clay loads to 3.5" 42 gram steel loads . I used to be a huge fan of Beretta autos but my opinion is on some of the later models the price went up a lot and the quality came down , I would still have my 391 if I did not want a 3.5" chambered gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 I'm winding you up mate!! To be fair I've only had a handful of 3.5" through mine, I didn't have any problems with those. I mainly pigeon shoot as you know, so my main cartridges since getting this gun have been anything from 28g 7.5's through to 32g 6's; Again I've not had any issues. Don't forget to use 100 x 32g to start with as advised by Beretta Yes I know you were , I also had a good idea you would not have used many 3.5" shells I am not sure if you got around to joining one of our wildfowling clubs , but if you have I can assure you that you would be very annoyed if you drive all the way here manage to walk 2 miles, get under some geese and then have your gun Jam Dont get me wrong I think the A400 is a lovely gun , and perhaps these issues have been sorted on later models but for me a gun needs to be as near 100% reliable as possible . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adi786 Posted March 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Not sure if a couple of cartridges will give you a accurate assessment . You are quite right , you will find bad review on any gun , I currently use a Versamax and several of the yanks call them Versacraps , yet I have had mine for a couple of years now and have never had a single jam or misfeed as yet , that is using everything from 28 gram clay loads to 3.5" 42 gram steel loads . I used to be a huge fan of Beretta autos but my opinion is on some of the later models the price went up a lot and the quality came down , I would still have my 391 if I did not want a 3.5" chambered gun. Versacraps LoL.... I'm winding you up mate!! To be fair I've only had a handful of 3.5" through mine, I didn't have any problems with those. I mainly pigeon shoot as you know, so my main cartridges since getting this gun have been anything from 28g 7.5's through to 32g 6's; Again I've not had any issues. Don't forget to use 100 x 32g to start with as advised by Beretta O yes wasn't aware of quantity but will start with 32g's.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) Versacraps LoL.... O yes wasn't aware of quantity but will start with 32g's.... Yes 100 or you'll be doomed!! any less and you'll end up with a gun like Stevo's ....Only joking Stevo!! Haven't seen any video's lately, you're slacking!! Edited March 20, 2015 by Cosd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 I put one.up the other day mate. It's the one where I was messing about with the kicks choke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 The problem with the A400 and 31/2" carts is well known hence the A300 Xtrema uses the older Xtrema 2 action with all the A400 bits fitted. The A400 has problems with the action catching 31/2" carts when cycling from the magazine, two get jammed in the action sometimes. Plenty about it on the American forums. My A300 Xtrema has had a few 31/2" Wildfowling carts through it and not one jam or stutter, even mixing 2 3/4" 3" and 31/2" in the gun all fired no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonna Shoot a Wabbit Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 I have the A400 in max 4 cammo. I agree with most of the posts in here that 3 chokes is a bit mean from beretta. I am a fan of 1/4 choke and bought a 1/4 teague choke for mine. I ran the gun in with 32g catridges as suggested and so far i have had no issues some 1000 cartridges later. I use mine for clays, pigeon shooting and wildfowling and the gun has handled so far faultlessly 28g clay loads, 32g pigeon loads and 3.5 magnum loads. For me the guns main positive is the much improved reduced felt recoil compared to my Al391( and that gun was good). 32g loads really are a doddle and the 28g clay loads are almost felt recoil free. Overall i am very pleased with the gun. I had my AL391 for 10 years and the A400 is here to stay too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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