Beretta28g Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 I'm looking for either a good supply of H870 or a reasonable slower burning substitute. The only thing I can see would be 50 BMG powder Does anyone have any ideas? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 What load data? What are you wanting? Call & bullet weight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 Vectan 8000? N 170? Retumbo? Cal and bullet weight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted April 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 .244 Holland and Holland, belted magnum. ( .243 diameter bore) Bullet 100 gn Nostler Partition 90 gn Barnes X I have been advised not to use anything faster than H870. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted April 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 What load data? What are you wanting? Call & bullet weight? Haven't really got much specific data, so it's take a educated guess at a starting load and take lots of measurements and chrono readings when working up a load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted April 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Email berger if their bullets are interesting to you. The use quickload and will give you a starting load to go from. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Any use? http://www.accuratereloading.com/244hhmag.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry931 Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Cartridge : .244 H&H Mag. BeltedBullet : .243, 100, Nosler PART SP 35642Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.640 inch or 92.46 mmBarrel Length : 26.0 inch or 660.4 mmPredicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.Matching Maximum Pressure: 55000 psi, or 379 MPaor a maximum loading ratio or filling of 100 %These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggestedloads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understandthat all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bulletand gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !245 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time % Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------ADI AR 2218 94.5 74.8 4.84 3392 98.6 55001 25458 1.291 ! Near Maximum !ReloadSwiss RS 80 92.8 74.8 4.85 3323 98.7 55001 24251 1.327 ! Near Maximum !Alliant Reloder-33 90.4 73.8 4.79 3319 98.2 55001 24203 1.328 ! Near Maximum !Hodgdon H870 95.5 73.3 4.75 3310 99.1 55001 23604 1.330 ! Near Maximum !Hodgdon Retumbo 93.0 69.5 4.50 3302 100.0 55001 21221 1.312 ! Near Maximum !ADI AR 2225 93.0 69.5 4.50 3302 100.0 55001 21221 1.312 ! Near Maximum !Alliant Reloder-50 95.6 76.8 4.98 3302 97.7 55001 24900 1.361 ! Near Maximum !Norma 217 94.8 69.4 4.50 3296 100.0 55001 21836 1.339 ! Near Maximum !ADI AR 2217 91.0 66.8 4.33 3276 100.0 55001 20622 1.291 ! Near Maximum !Hodgdon H1000 91.0 66.8 4.33 3276 100.0 55001 20622 1.291 ! Near Maximum !Vihtavuori 24N41 93.6 74.0 4.80 3264 93.5 55001 22799 1.298 ! Near Maximum !Hodgdon 50BMG 98.6 74.3 4.82 3262 89.9 55001 23286 1.307 ! Near Maximum !Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 96.4 75.8 4.91 3251 91.3 55001 23989 1.356 ! Near Maximum !Accurate 8700 100.0 77.5 5.02 3249 97.6 54148 22772 1.327 ! Near Maximum !Hodgdon US 869 98.1 77.7 5.03 3245 93.5 55001 23084 1.318 ! Near Maximum !SNPE Vectan SP 13 99.8 75.8 4.91 3242 97.5 55001 22430 1.329 ! Near Maximum !Vihtavuori 20N29 100.0 80.0 5.18 3236 95.6 54213 23493 1.347 ! Near Maximum !Vihtavuori N170 93.9 69.0 4.47 3216 96.9 55001 20957 1.316 ! Near Maximum !Lovex D100 91.7 73.4 4.75 3199 94.2 55001 21144 1.309 ! Near Maximum ! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Cartridge : .244 H&H Mag. BeltedBullet : .243, 90, Barnes 'X' S 24315Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.640 inch or 92.46 mmBarrel Length : 26.0 inch or 660.4 mmPredicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.Matching Maximum Pressure: 55000 psi, or 379 MPaor a maximum loading ratio or filling of 100 %These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggestedloads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understandthat all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bulletand gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !236 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time % Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------ADI AR 2218 94.3 74.5 4.83 3499 97.5 55001 25086 1.228 ! Near Maximum !ADI AR 2225 92.7 69.2 4.48 3425 100.0 55001 21126 1.243 ! Near Maximum !Hodgdon Retumbo 92.7 69.2 4.48 3425 100.0 55001 21126 1.243 ! Near Maximum !ReloadSwiss RS 80 92.4 74.4 4.82 3424 97.8 55001 23859 1.263 ! Near Maximum !Alliant Reloder-33 90.0 73.4 4.76 3418 97.1 55001 23777 1.264 ! Near Maximum !Hodgdon H870 95.0 72.8 4.72 3411 98.3 55001 23251 1.266 ! Near Maximum !Norma 217 94.3 68.9 4.46 3410 100.0 55001 21675 1.273 ! Near Maximum !Alliant Reloder-50 94.8 76.1 4.93 3394 96.5 55001 24335 1.294 ! Near Maximum !ADI AR 2217 90.8 66.6 4.32 3387 99.7 55001 20518 1.227 ! Near Maximum !Hodgdon H1000 90.8 66.6 4.32 3387 99.7 55001 20518 1.227 ! Near Maximum !Accurate 8700 100.0 77.4 5.02 3359 96.6 54910 22475 1.256 ! Near Maximum !Vihtavuori 24N41 93.3 73.7 4.78 3353 91.8 55001 22270 1.241 ! Near Maximum !Hodgdon 50BMG 98.2 74.0 4.79 3345 87.9 55001 22653 1.249 ! Near Maximum !Vihtavuori 20N29 99.8 79.7 5.17 3339 94.4 55001 23072 1.275 ! Near Maximum !SNPE Vectan SP 13 99.3 75.3 4.88 3333 96.2 55001 22008 1.269 ! Near Maximum !Hodgdon US 869 97.7 77.3 5.01 3331 91.8 55001 22527 1.260 ! Near Maximum !Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 95.8 75.2 4.87 3327 89.4 55001 23304 1.294 ! Near Maximum !Vihtavuori N170 93.6 68.7 4.45 3307 95.7 55001 20622 1.260 ! Near Maximum !PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 100.0 75.8 4.91 3292 94.6 53121 21942 1.284Lovex D100 91.5 73.0 4.73 3285 92.6 55001 20698 1.253 ! Near Maximum !NC A3502 ,test only 100.0 72.6 4.70 3103 74.7 43630 19692 1.321TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 100.0 72.6 4.70 3036 76.9 42690 19421 1.350V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 100.0 72.6 4.70 2271 39.0 23929 10212 1.708ADI AS 25 BP 100.0 25.0 1.62 2242 100.0 37748 5491 1.412IMR TrailBoss 100.0 25.0 1.62 2242 100.0 37748 5491 1.412 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 @ henry, good show ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted April 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 That's brilliant! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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