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And the cons have borrowed less?

 

KW

indeed, they just are better at hiding it

[AVB]

indeed, they just are better at hiding it

Sorry you are wrong. KW is correct. Net Borrowing has fallen from £153bn in 2009 to £98bn in 2014. Edited April 18, 2015 by AVB

[kdubya]

Sorry you are wrong. KW is correct. Net Borrowing has fallen from £153bn in 2009 to £98bn in 2014.

Nice bit of spin there me thinks , I will ask you a question lets see if you can answer it straight , no spin, no reference to net etc, right here goes have the con men ACTUALLY borrowed more in this term of office than labour did in theirs?

 

 

KW

[AVB]

They have borrowed a lot less mainly because they have been in power a shorter period of time

 

The following link will help http://www.parliament.uk/Templates/BriefingPapers/Pages/BPPdfDownload.aspx?bp-id=sn05745

 

The graph showing the net debt clearly shows that debt increases during periods of Labour government.

[kdubya]

They have borrowed a lot less mainly because they have been in power a shorter period of time

 

The following link will help http://www.parliament.uk/Templates/BriefingPapers/Pages/BPPdfDownload.aspx?bp-id=sn05745

 

The graph showing the net debt clearly shows that debt increases during periods of Labour government.

See you couldn't keep the net bit out could you, I will ask again without referring to "net" have the cons ACTUALLY borrowed more than labour did

 

kw

[AVB]

See you couldn't keep the net bit out could you, I will ask again without referring to "net" have the cons ACTUALLY borrowed more than labour did

 

kw

What do the official figures in the link I sent say. I am sure you can do the math.

[iain]

England's biggest problem will be the coven that's formed. The three ladies are going to really mess us up. If they have enough seats between them. Say good bye to private cars, air travel, gun ownership, trident, armed forces . No one will be able to afford any thing unless they can leave the " green anti English utopia". Then they'll Change our police to those guys with the bear as a mascot . Before any one says I'm sexist I'm not just can't stand the " lets MAKE everyone do what we want as we know better brigade"

I was board one night and read the Green Party manifesto, the last time I saw something like that is it was a little red book in China

Let's hope the their own people see through them.

What we need now is a clear out of all of them. Get a entire new bunch of MPs or another Cromwell

[kdubya]

What do the official figures in the link I sent say. I am sure you can do the math.

so go on then what is our national debt now after Osbourne has borrowed a record amount and at record low interest rates as well,compared to that under labour, oh and dont answer using the term deficit please.

 

KW

[keg]

And the cons have borrowed less?

 

KW

To get us back on an even keel, the cuts would have to be double what they are now, the electorate would not stand for it. No one knew the mess we were in. The treasury note said it all.

so go on then what is our national debt now after Osbourne has borrowed a record amount and at record low interest rates as well,compared to that under labour, oh and dont answer using the term deficit please.

 

KW

Why not?

They have borrowed a lot less mainly because they have been in power a shorter period of time

 

The following link will help http://www.parliament.uk/Templates/BriefingPapers/Pages/BPPdfDownload.aspx?bp-id=sn05745

 

The graph showing the net debt clearly shows that debt increases during periods of Labour government.

+1 Labour spends and sends us into the mire, Cons bail us out, 3rd cycle in my lifetime.

[keg]

Totally disagree. The world was on it's knees so you can only do so much.

Labour spent loads on hospitals, army, schools and we see this first hand as we supply them.

 

Now it's 2 weeks for a doctors appointment , army cut, hospitals a crowded with no staff.

 

 

 

What you have to remember is who ever you vote for the government will always get in

Labour put over a million people into public sector jobs for no real difference. NHS spending went way OTT

 

What they mean buy cuts is getting back to where we were before they were in power.

 

http://www.kingsfund.org.uk/projects/general-election-2010/key-election-questions/money-spent-nhs

 

Interesting article- confirms that productivity reduced in the NHS by 2.5% despite the increase in spending.

 

Do i need to state the obvious ....efficiency .....

[kdubya]

To get us back on an even keel, the cuts would have to be double what they are now, the electorate would not stand for it. No one knew the mess we were in. The treasury note said it all.

Why not?

+1 Labour spends and sends us into the mire, Cons bail us out, 3rd cycle in my lifetime.

If getting our debt to 1.2 TRILLION is bailing us out lord help us all.lets think a bit, loads on min wage low hour jobs paying next to nowt tax,still needing all our resources and higher tax payers to help them out whilst their employers cream in billions, immigration running at nearly 300k a year (mostly low paid unneeded labour how many car hand washes can we sustain?) despite the cons promising to control it to tens of thousands ha ha plum gob should realise he cant control it the borders are not ours to control,and these immigrants will all need social support both now and particularly when older , as will they get a pension after putting next to naff all in?

 

NHS just about on its knees,waiting lists at an all time high beds at an all time low ( easier for shorter people will be the spin) Gove admitting the cons cannot now win the election, had to laugh at that one the buffoon. yes I would sincerely like to take this opportunity to thank the cons for all they have done to bail me out,.

 

KW

[keg]

I'd like to thank them, always done well under them. Your propaganda is as bad as Labour if you think the NHS is on its knees. If it's that bad, we will need all the people you despise to pay the bills. If we tax them like you want to they will go, just as they did in France.

 

Now there is a country in a mess.

England's biggest problem will be the coven that's formed. The three ladies are going to really mess us up. If they have enough seats between them. Say good bye to private cars, air travel, gun ownership, trident, armed forces . No one will be able to afford any thing unless they can leave the " green anti English utopia". Then they'll Change our police to those guys with the bear as a mascot . Before any one says I'm sexist I'm not just can't stand the " lets MAKE everyone do what we want as we know better brigade"
I was board one night and read the Green Party manifesto, the last time I saw something like that is it was a little red book in China
Let's hope the their own people see through them.
What we need now is a clear out of all of them. Get a entire new bunch of MPs or another Cromwell

The Greens think the world runs on pixie dust and elf flatulence- whoops greenhouse gas!

[AVB]

If getting our debt to 1.2 TRILLION is bailing us out lord help us all.lets think a bit, loads on min wage low hour jobs paying next to nowt tax,still needing all our resources and higher tax payers to help them out whilst their employers cream in billions, immigration running at nearly 300k a year (mostly low paid unneeded labour how many car hand washes can we sustain?) despite the cons promising to control it to tens of thousands ha ha plum gob should realise he cant control it the borders are not ours to control,and these immigrants will all need social support both now and particularly when older , as will they get a pension after putting next to naff all in?

 

NHS just about on its knees,waiting lists at an all time high beds at an all time low ( easier for shorter people will be the spin) Gove admitting the cons cannot now win the election, had to laugh at that one the buffoon. yes I would sincerely like to take this opportunity to thank the cons for all they have done to bail me out,.

 

KW

Blimey KW I can see the veins popping out on your forehead when you wrote that. You really must stop reading the Daily Mail.

 

Anyway things could be a lot worse. I could be earning less for example.

[keg]

If getting our debt to 1.2 TRILLION is bailing us out lord help us all.lets think a bit, loads on min wage low hour jobs paying next to nowt tax,still needing all our resources and higher tax payers to help them out whilst their employers cream in billions, immigration running at nearly 300k a year (mostly low paid unneeded labour how many car hand washes can we sustain?) despite the cons promising to control it to tens of thousands ha ha plum gob should realise he cant control it the borders are not ours to control,and these immigrants will all need social support both now and particularly when older , as will they get a pension after putting next to naff all in?

 

NHS just about on its knees,waiting lists at an all time high beds at an all time low ( easier for shorter people will be the spin) Gove admitting the cons cannot now win the election, had to laugh at that one the buffoon. yes I would sincerely like to take this opportunity to thank the cons for all they have done to bail me out,.

 

KW

Just out of interest KW, what would you have done if you had walked into the treasury on that first day?

[guest1957]

Just out of interest KW, what would you have done if you had walked into the treasury on that first day?

Panic, leave and blame someone else...

[kdubya]

 

Anyway things could be a lot worse. I could be earning less for example.

 

Still doing this then?

 

[krugerandsmith]

If getting our debt to 1.2 TRILLION is bailing us out lord help us all.lets think a bit, loads on min wage low hour jobs paying next to nowt tax,still needing all our resources and higher tax payers to help them out whilst their employers cream in billions, immigration running at nearly 300k a year (mostly low paid unneeded labour how many car hand washes can we sustain?) despite the cons promising to control it to tens of thousands ha ha plum gob should realise he cant control it the borders are not ours to control,and these immigrants will all need social support both now and particularly when older , as will they get a pension after putting next to naff all in?

 

NHS just about on its knees,waiting lists at an all time high beds at an all time low ( easier for shorter people will be the spin) Gove admitting the cons cannot now win the election, had to laugh at that one the buffoon. yes I would sincerely like to take this opportunity to thank the cons for all they have done to bail me out,.

 

KW

 

absolutely correct and growing at the rate of £10 million an hour . Todays news they are to sell off some Bank interests ..... Money to help pay off a little of our National debt. Hmmm.

[kdubya]

 

absolutely correct and growing at the rate of £10 million an hour . Todays news they are to sell off some Bank interests ..... Money to help pay off a little of our National debt. Hmmm.

So lets think, the British taxpayer puts in 40 billion to support a corrupt and failed bank,then the proposed govt wants to sell the shares created to "give the taxpayer their money back" but only if you cough up between £250 and 10K oh goody that's everyone getting their money back is it? and the govt in doing so give up OUR investment and returns that should benefit us all for as long as , in order to get a quick short term tiny part fix on the debt that has spiraled in their term, and you think they are the responsible ones financially HE HE HE, yep they aint called cons for nowt

 

come on you tenner waving con lovers tell me how that's good for us then.

 

 

KW

Edited April 19, 2015 by kdubya

[AVB]

So lets think, the British taxpayer puts in 40 billion to support a corrupt and failed bank,then the proposed govt wants to sell the shares created to "give the taxpayer their money back" but only if you cough up between £250 and 10K oh goody that's everyone getting their money back is it? and the govt in doing so give up OUR investment and returns that should benefit us all for as long as , in order to get quick short term tiny fix on the debt that has spiraled in their term, and you think they are the responsible ones financially HE HE HE, yep they aint called cons for nowt

 

come on you tenner waving con lovers tell me how that's good for us then.

 

 

KW

You don't have to buy them. The Government Bought the shares using money it didn't have ie debt and is now selling the shares, at a profit, in order to get the money back which means that debt will reduce and thereforefe less drain on taxpayers. Simples.

 

This reminds me of the eighties. What was it that Harry Enfield used to say. Loadsamoney.

[kdubya]

You don't have to buy them. The Government Bought the shares using money it didn't have ie debt and is now selling the shares, at a profit, in order to get the money back which means that debt will reduce and thereforefe less drain on taxpayers. Simples.

 

This reminds me of the eighties. What was it that Harry Enfield used to say. Loadsamoney.

er the fiqure quoted show they will get less back than they put in ,(perhaps I dont understand the term profit)

 

KW

Edited April 19, 2015 by kdubya

[keg]

I don't understand what a fiquer is

 

absolutely correct and growing at the rate of £10 million an hour . Todays news they are to sell off some Bank interests ..... Money to help pay off a little of our National debt. Hmmm.

Don't forget that Blair and the rest of New Communism inherited a good economy from Major.

[kdubya]

I don't understand what a fiquer is

Don't forget that Blair and the rest of New Communism inherited a good economy from Major.

I was sure you could figure it out.

 

 

KW

[norfolk dumpling]

Historically Labour usually inherit a thriving economy and then screw it up. They just don't get the idea that big business and wealth-makers actually provide employment. So they tax them to death, increase the benefit culture, ruine the economy and then Tories come back into sort it out. This time we've got the Scots and Taffs element to add to our misery. That little cottage in Cornwall we were looking at might be one by the sea in Malta! Last man leaving the country please close the door - sounds like a plug for UKIP.

[kdubya]

Historically Labour usually inherit a thriving economy and then screw it up. They just don't get the idea that big business and wealth-makers actually provide employment. So they tax them to death, increase the benefit culture, ruine the economy and then Tories come back into sort it out. This time we've got the Scots and Taffs element to add to our misery. That little cottage in Cornwall we were looking at might be one by the sea in Malta! Last man leaving the country please close the door - sounds like a plug for UKIP.

Inherit a thriving economy silly old me I never realised that a national debt of 1.2 trillion and rising daily is a thriving economy. perhaps the jocks coming in with their well known skin flint culture may be no bad thing.

 

KW

[AVB]

 

Still doing this then?

 

Have you been stalking me KW? Admit it you have haven't you. I wondered who that was with the long lense hiding in the bushes the other day was. No that isn't me. Far too young. I'll post a picture of me at work in the 80's when I was in the pit. I think I have one somewhere.