subsonicnat Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Skeet shooting couple of weeks ago, Me not being a Clay Shooter.lol. Last pull on station 7, if you kill both birds with a single shot.? What happens score wise then.?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainBeaky Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Iirc, you score zero for that pair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted June 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 What no score at all.?. You don't take it again.?. Zero score, surely not,, is that it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordigrayyorkschamp Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Im sure you get another chance of the pair again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Repeat pair nil score I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted June 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) Repeat pair nil score I think.Trouble was mate,lol. He did it TWICE. Wow.. Now What.?.6The scorer did not know either,, he had to shoot one SINGLE.?. Now that is Not Strictly a Pair is it..? Edited June 19, 2015 by subsonicnat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 if you do it 3 times on one stand you lose the pair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 No bird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 No bird until you do it 3 times on one stand then you lose the pair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyosk Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 That's right, no bird pair again if you do it three times pair lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 3 attempts to shoot the pair "properly" then nil score if you can't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee. Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) Depends what actually happened. A good ref would have recognised the situation straight away. Common Examples.... If the first bird was clearly hit first, then '1st bird established killed', pair again to establish the result of the 2nd bird. If you shoot the first bird and the pieces then run into, and break, the second target (see above). If your first shot breaks the 2nd target first then its '1st target established lost, pair again to establish the result of the 2nd bird'. If both birds killed at the same time with the first shot then 'pair again nothing established'. If both targets are hit with the first shot, 2 warnings and if it happens on the 3RD attempt it is scored as follows - '1st target hit, 2nd target lost' NOT BOTH TARGETS LOST AS EVERYONE ABOVE SEEMS TO THINK. See rule: 5.46. Easy aint it Easy way to try and work it out I find is 'did the shooter kill the 1st bird with their 1st shot? Then work it out from there. You can download the Technical Rules (Booklet 7) for each discipline for free from the CPSA website. English Skeet, ABT and DTL have the most rules. Edited June 19, 2015 by Gee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted June 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Very good answer, As it could not be really ascertained wether the first clay broke the second Clay. So yes, a very clear answer, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 I think it's just easier to take them separately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted June 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 I think it's just easier to take them separately They were crossing each other as he fire Shaun, I didn't think for a moment he COULD DO IT AGAIN. Amazeing really.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 They were crossing each other as he fire Shaun, I didn't think for a moment he COULD DO IT AGAIN. Amazeing really.. I know, I was being sarcastic But I have seen it done twice in a row, not yet seen it done 3 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnykiller Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Depends what actually happened. A good ref would have recognised the situation straight away. Common Examples.... If the first bird was clearly hit first, then '1st bird established killed', pair again to establish the result of the 2nd bird. If you shoot the first bird and the pieces then run into, and break, the second target (see above). If your first shot breaks the 2nd target first then its '1st target established lost, pair again to establish the result of the 2nd bird'. If both birds killed at the same time with the first shot then 'pair again nothing established'. If both targets are hit with the first shot, 2 warnings and if it happens on the 3RD attempt it is scored as follows - '1st target hit, 2nd target lost' NOT BOTH TARGETS LOST AS EVERYONE ABOVE SEEMS TO THINK. See rule: 5.46. Easy aint it Easy way to try and work it out I find is 'did the shooter kill the 1st bird with their 1st shot? Then work it out from there. You can download the Technical Rules (Booklet 7) for each discipline for free from the CPSA website. English Skeet, ABT and DTL have the most rules. Being a cpsa ref you are correct on this, but if the lost bird is their first loss then they would get an option bird of their choice from the pair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee. Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Being a cpsa ref you are correct on this, but if the lost bird is their first loss then they would get an option bird of their choice from the pair. Yep 100% correct, omitted that little point tho (sorry ) as to have been unlucky enough to have shot both targets with one shot, twice on 7....... chances are the option has already been used with timing like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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