smudgey Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 how long is it worth decoying from when wheat is cut? because im not gonna be able to shoot for two weeks and they are cutting the wheat on my permission on tuesday if all goes to plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 Any time from being cut to when it is ploughed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudgey Posted August 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 thats great thanks. hopefully it might give me some time to give it a go cos there is 2 busy flightlines across it at the mo, hope it stays that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottk Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Going tomorrow 6 pm till dark my first time over stubble, taking 20 decoys with me, hopefully bring some in, any particular patterns work best over stubble or is it just the same approach, I.e horseshoe etc, any tips welcome. Sorry for the hijack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Any decent pattern should work if the birds are there , allow plenty of space between decoys. I thnk you are going to miss quite a bit of sport if the birds are there going so late though . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Agree with Fenboy, you are starting quite late. I use random pattern rather than a V or U shape type pattern. Or with 20 decoys maybe two random patterns with a 10 yard gap as the kill zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottk Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 (edited) Yeah went for a look tonight, not much about, think your right boys need to be earlier,must admit I've done better with two random patterns. Thanks for advice guys Edited August 6, 2015 by scottk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooooper1 Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 never seen pigeons landing in a V or U patterns before or landing with a gap in the pattern before if a pigeon wants to feed it`ll land anywhere in a pattern, for me as long as they are pointing in to the wind that`ll do me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottk Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) Ok just an update if helpfull to anyone, as you guys are so good at responding, done 3 sessions 2-3 hours between 3-8 different times each session , each over stubble birds in vicinity but not where I set up. But due to roads etc and following safe run off areas, can't always set up where the birds are. 36 birds in total, 16 my best which was tonight, got most action over two random patterns with a gap in the middle started at 20 yards but slowly increased , and real birds in the pattern made a massive difference to getting birds to commit, reckon if I could hit a barn door, and resisted trying to shoot pigeons outside my ability probably could have had triple the number easily , lots of rookie mistakes but I'm learning slowly. Got some spring sticks for the neoprene shells got to say think there brilliant, work really well with a bit of wind proper life like nice bit of cheap movement in the pattern. In regards to hide I set up under a tree used two nets one lower so extra cover to waste height and found if you put straw between the nets blends in great. Had two doubles which was great and furthest paced to 45 yards, think that was a fluke though, as rarely hit anything further than 35 yards. Question to you guys I got a lot of high birds flying over the pattern, that I tried to shoot missed everyone one, before I worked out to only shoot lower birds that were interested in pattern. Is that the best approach? Thanks, this is addictive! Edited August 17, 2015 by scottk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 Ok just an update if helpfull to anyone, as you guys are so good at responding, done 3 sessions 2-3 hours between 3-8 different times each session , each over stubble birds in vicinity but not where I set up. But due to roads etc and following safe run off areas, can't always set up where the birds are. 36 birds in total, 16 my best which was tonight, got most action over two random patterns with a gap in the middle started at 20 yards but slowly increased , and real birds in the pattern made a massive difference to getting birds to commit, reckon if I could hit a barn door, and resisted trying to shoot pigeons outside my ability probably could have had triple the number easily , lots of rookie mistakes but I'm learning slowly. Got some spring sticks for the neoprene shells got to say think there brilliant, work really well with a bit of wind proper like like nice bit of cheap movement in the pattern. In regards to hide I set up under a tree used two nets one lower so extra cover to waste height and found if you put straw between the nets blends in great. Had two doubles which was great and furthest paced to 45 yards, think that was a fluke though, as rarely hit anything further than 35 yards. Question to you guys I got a lot of high birds flying over the pattern, that I tried to shoot missed everyone one, before I worked out to only shoot lower birds that were interested in pattern. Is that the best approach? Thanks, this is addictive! At the moment, you may struggle to judge range effectively. You may be shooting pigeons that are way out of range. You may be better to stick to pigeons you are comfortable with for now, and shoot more difficult birds as your ability increases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 The best approach is to shoot the birds that you know you can consistently hit . If you are missing birds flying high over the decoys you need to work out if you are( A) missing them because they are beyond your skill level or ( B) missing them because you are shooting at birds that are too far away. A can be put right with plenty of practice B will always be the same ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 Its good you are trying different things, thats the only way to get the experience that will give you even more confidence. If a bird is in range then it merits a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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