viking Posted February 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 not sure if it was galvanised or not but had silver paint on, but i grinded it rite down to bare metal so hopefully i wont of poisoned myself i find if i go slower i end up with big thick welds, will that be the wire speed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted February 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 also managed to clean a few things up ready for painting, . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted February 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 also got sump off ready to sand down and paint, but first its soaking in diesel, doesn't look like there is any damage or dents so should be a straight forward job . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 if the weld run is curling in at the edges....you dont have enuff heat..............its all a balancing act ...you need heat ..but not enough to burn thro' the metal....the size of the run will depend on the speed of your travel...and the speed of the wire.............and the angle of the gun...................practice on flat metal first....just keep on fiddling with everything .....then all of a sudden it will twig and you will say AAAhhhhhh...HHahhh.............make sure you have a good clean contact tip in........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted February 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 had a little test on these with this new wire wheel iv got for my grinder, came up a treat, doesn't hit the nooks and crannies though,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 the cleaning is coming on a treat.............it is very theraputic........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted February 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 and last but not least got some primer on a couple of things before i ran out of it.. if the weld run is curling in at the edges....you dont have enuff heat..............its all a balancing act ...you need heat ..but not enough to burn thro' the metal....the size of the run will depend on the speed of your travel...and the speed of the wire.............and the angle of the gun...................practice on flat metal first....just keep on fiddling with everything .....then all of a sudden it will twig and you will say AAAhhhhhh...HHahhh.............make sure you have a good clean contact tip in........... cheers ditchie i will give all that a try tomorrow, i will have to buy some contact tips as i dont have any, dont even know what they are but i will soon find out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted February 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 the cleaning is coming on a treat.............it is very theraputic........... yes it is good fun when things come up nice and clean, iv been taught by the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) then had to grind it up to clean it before my attempt at welding again. some of it wasnt to bad for my second time up the amps a smige and keep a steady speed on the travel and check the angle of the torch and are you dragging the weld or pushing as it looks like dragging if so try pushing the torch i.e hand following the ark. you will find the weld will flatten out if the amps and wire feed is right. but looking good for a first attempt Edited February 8, 2016 by fruitloop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Right...find out what contact tips are....there are differant sizes to suit the gauge of wire......take a snippet of wire in...to check size......also buy (very cheap) set of wire files to keep the contact tip clean...also unscrew the shroud and get another one ...they must be kept clean....also buy...spray tin of "anti-spatter"...to spray in the shroud.....take hose off machine and blow it out with your compressor...give it a shake and a tap.....check tension and clennliness of wire feed rollers............... get all this done and then start to practice................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted February 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 up the amps a smige and keep a steady speed on the travel and check the angle of the torch and are you dragging the weld or pushing as it looks like dragging if so try pushing the torch i.e hand following the ark. you will find the weld will flatten out if the amps and wire feed is right. but looking good for a first attempt its got a switch that says 1 and 2, iv got it on 2 and one for min and max and its on max, thats how it was when i got it so left it like that, as for dragging or pushing iv been doing it towards me so i guess that might be dragging?? and think i need to watch some more videos on youtube for torch angle thanks.. Right...find out what contact tips are....there are differant sizes to suit the gauge of wire......take a snippet of wire in...to check size......also buy (very cheap) set of wire files to keep the contact tip clean...also unscrew the shroud and get another one ...they must be kept clean....also buy...spray tin of "anti-spatter"...to spray in the shroud.....take hose off machine and blow it out with your compressor...give it a shake and a tap.....check tension and clennliness of wire feed rollers............... get all this done and then start to practice................ sound complicated to me, but i will sus it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 between fruitloop and the other boys they will set you straight on the welding..........but before that you must get your machine "up to snuff"....blow all the dust out ...clean wire...and all the other bits i mentioned...that costs pennies...... then you start welding and if anything is not right then the other boys will put you right...cause you know your machine is maintained.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted February 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 the lad did say the wire was a bit rusty as its been sat for a fair while, i was going to buy some more but thought it would do whilst i practiced, im now thinking thats not the case so what size wire does anyone recommend, and what contact tips and shroud, as i have no idea whatsoever, i will set about giving it a clean tomorrow and order what parts i need asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 the contact tips need the hole to fit the wire.....you might have 3 differant wire sizes so get 6 of each tips...........go on line and download a manual for the machine you have...then ring the welding supplier local to you as they will stock all the parts you need most of them are standard sizes......dirty wire will bung up your feed tube ...and make the wire feed intermittant...i bet the tube is filthy....clean it.....strip all the wire off the spool until you (if you get to ! ) clean bright wire...if not bin it......the shoud should be a standard size and should unscrew....it might be stuck and will need light sharp tapping on it......shroud must be kept clean as it focuses the gas sheild....also get wire brush... all this stuff is cheap....but if you have a clean machine it will work well and produce really good results................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 the lad did say the wire was a bit rusty as its been sat for a fair while, i was going to buy some more but thought it would do whilst i practiced, im now thinking thats not the case so what size wire does anyone recommend, and what contact tips and shroud, as i have no idea whatsoever, i will set about giving it a clean tomorrow and order what parts i need asap. :good:I I would think 0.6 wire would serve you well viking, tips to match of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted February 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Nice one la Bala I will order some new wire and what not tomorrow. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted February 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Looks about rite to me?? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mig-Welding-Wire-5KG-0-6mm-0-8mm-1-0mm-with-TIPS-AND-SHROUDS-KIT-/161433881709?var=&hash=item2596358c6d:m:m8t5bG7cepSqj8nRcN6nfKw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 Personally I'd use 0.8 over 0.6, I find its better for penetration and is better suited when you need to weld the heavier gauges of automotive steel than .6 No doubt some will try to say they can repair thinner panel work with the smaller gauge wire but my argument has always been if I can't weld it with .8 it's not worth welding ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted February 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 i will also get some .8 wire and tips to then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted February 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) Its neck and neck in views ditchie Edited February 9, 2016 by viking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted February 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 nothing to report today, welding was worse than ever, defiantly the tip is shot as it was struggling to let the wire feed through,had to keep pulling it through with the pliers, and the shroud was in a rite mess that was nearly closed up with what i guess was weld splatter. ordered so mew parts so will wait now till they come, one thing i did notice was my first 2 fags i had after welding tasted like i was smoking talcum powder, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 also take the hose off and give it a good shake and tap...then blow it out ...you will be amazed at the carp that comes out..........you might be feeding tooo much gas if you have a dry taste in your mouth............get the flowmeter !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) Its neck and neck in views ditchie well as its turning out to be a weeing contest.....dont forget ive got other threads running....errr 2830 on "baikal pimping"....as JDog points out all my topics go hot 'cept my pigeonshooting ones... but at the end of the day...im nearly done and you are starting...so you should see your views double........and i will just be a vague memory as someone who just wirebrushed stuff and took pictures of it... you will leave your mark as to having created something and it will go on into the future to live again....the only mark i have created was in the gussit of my "y" fronts which i won from JDog in the raffell......when i was running from the shed to get the fire extiguisher..... The story of my life can be described thus ..."and the lord said unto Moses.."come forth"...but he came fith and lost his tobacco money" your fame shall be known to all those, even before you get there...well after i have slipped my mortal coil beneath this sub luninary abode.......... farewell sweet yorik...................... Edited February 9, 2016 by ditchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted February 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) you have lost me now mate, dont know where to start to answer that and i think its a bit more than wire brushing stuff, i have learnt many things from your good self, and obviously plenty of others on here, without witch i would of been struggling to get things done and keep my motivation,.this far a big thanks to you all, and i only noticed the view counts today because in my content mine and your thread were at the top, view counts mean nothing really, its the quality of the thread that counts, and yours good sir is pure quality. and half of my view counts are probably myself looking Edited February 9, 2016 by viking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 as you are using co2 and you have a mini mig id go 0.6 as you say you are on nearly max amps so it will take less amps to melt the wire off. so you can turn the wire feed up but also the wire feed *** in the small units sometimes acts a a fine amps switch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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