Guest Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Hello all, I've got the chance of obtaining a used one of these scopes for my CZ452 in .22lr. I'd love to get one especially since my current scope is fixed x10 and I'm finding the power a bit to much for my liking on rabbits. The only problem is the relatively plain reticle they come in and the capped turrets that prevent dialling. When I'm rabbit shooting I almost always have to apply hold over or dial the range and can't understand how people use these scopes to such great effect on .22lrs given the loopy trajectory. Please enlighten me folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 If the rabbit is beyond your zero distance you aim a bit higher. Close aim lower. If the wind is coming from the right you aim abut right, if it's from the left aim left. Really simple the practise is how much a little bit is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) Fair enough, was just wondering if people had a more precise way of doing this as opposed to just guessing? Like do people take the caps of an dial when out of point blank range? Or just stalk within point blank range every time? Edited August 12, 2015 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew f Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Fair enough, was just wondering if people had a more precise way of doing this as opposed to just guessing? Like do people take the caps of an dial when out of point blank range? Or just stalk within point blank range every time? set targets up at distances 22lr is cheap to shoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savhmr Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 I've just switched to the Hawke rimfire reticule and it really does take all the guesswork out and is perfect for 22LR. Using Eley subs, the reticule is accurate at 6x mag and using ordinary supersonics, at 7 x mag. You still have to allow for windage of course but it is a more accurate way of shooting as long as you combine it with a ranegfinder. Both can be had together probably for less than the cost of the S&B 6x42. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew f Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 I've just switched to the Hawke rimfire reticule and it really does take all the guesswork out and is perfect for 22LR. Using Eley subs, the reticule is accurate at 6x mag and using ordinary supersonics, at 7 x mag. You still have to allow for windage of course but it is a more accurate way of shooting as long as you combine it with a ranegfinder. Both can be had together probably for less than the cost of the S&B 6x42. to much faffing under a lamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Do people use duplex reticles just because they always have done and are used to them? If you do use one do you genuinely prefer it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savhmr Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 to much faffing under a lamp Why? Mag is set at 6 x or 7 times, rets are illuminated and clear and far less fussy than many. I can't see any faffing issues at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew f Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) Why? Mag is set at 6 x or 7 times, rets are illuminated and clear and far less fussy than many. I can't see any faffing issues at all my rabbits don't sit still for a rangefinder under a lamp seen to many of there mates fall over Do people use duplex reticles just because they always have done and are used to them? If you do use one do you genuinely prefer it? Was taught to shoot with one and still got the scope and rifle I learnt to shoot with 17 years old and still up to the job. Edited August 12, 2015 by andrew f Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Fair enough, was just wondering if people had a more precise way of doing this as opposed to just guessing? Like do people take the caps of an dial when out of point blank range? Or just stalk within point blank range every time? It is precise but you have to buy something call familiarity it comes free with practise. Lay targets out (I prefer quarry ie rabbit shapes) and shoot them at lots of distances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubear Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 The first target "rifle" I used to shoot (inverte commas deliberate) was the cadet version of the army's SA80, which was called the L98. For anyone who remembers these, or used them, the sights were appalling and had no calibration. You just stuck a little key into a racheted wheel and hoicked the sights round a few clicks to get an approximate zero. We used to shoot these at 200, 300 and 500 yards using NATO 5.56mm ammo and there was no concept of "Right I've moved back 300 yards, better up my elevation 8.25 minutes". And as the sights on mine particular rifle were so useless I ended up with the windage over left as far as it would go just to keep me roughly central on the target. So in the end I just set the thing up for 300 yards and then just used to aim higher or lower as the range changed, and left or right more with the wind speed. The last year we shot the Ashburton my team came 5th nationally. So even though its a bit rough and ready if you can get used to the rifle and used to the ammo you use, and used to shooting it under various weather conditions, you can just tweak things around to suit you on the day and make sure you're still on target. Just lots of practice really! Which, for me at least, is always welcome because it means I have an excuse to go down the range more often hehe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Rabbits in a lamp are usually pretty close, certainly no time to range and dial. Using 22 subsonics, zero at 50 yards, 75 yards top of its ears. I had another zero of 100 yards approx on the tip of the wide part of the ret at 9x. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpaulc Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 For my .22 rabbiting I've got a plain reticle scope zeroed at 50yds. Like welshwarrior says, guess range the go with gut instinct. If it's further aim higher, I go on the notion that a rabbit head is about 2inches so if it's an ambitious distance I'd aim an extra half head width above etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savhmr Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Rabbits in a lamp are usually pretty close, certainly no time to range and dial. Using 22 subsonics, zero at 50 yards, 75 yards top of its ears. I had another zero of 100 yards approx on the tip of the wide part of the ret at 9x. A Point is that with a rimfire ret, you don't have to dial anything. Just estimate the range, use the appropriate ret and squeeze the trigger. If you have time to use the rangefinder, all well and good, but most bunnies I've lamped have all been within 40 to 75 yds, so I usually zero at 75 and aim a tiny bit under if closer range. Daytime bunny bashing is a different matter as you do have time to range find and get a more accurate assessment of distance. Guesswork for targets is one thing. Shooting live animals is quite an other. I don't like guesswork too much with animals as a clean kill is always the best outcome so I use whatever is available and at my disposal to ensure that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Right, took the plunge and got the scope. I now run Schmidts on both of my rifles! Anybody got any experience of holdover with an A7 reticle in x6? I'll put in the leg work at the range but if anyone has experience then a head start would be good. Bunnies beware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cawdor118 Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I have just bought the exact same set up for my BRNO .22 ... Let's hope the 6x42 isnt too much for a .22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I have just bought the exact same set up for my BRNO .22 ... Let's hope the 6x42 isnt too much for a .22 I think we're in for a bright future mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) Took her out last night and took 2 rabbits and a squirrel. The optics and reticle are superb, kicking myself for chopping and changing with different scopes over the years. Still got work to do learning the drop on the reticle so only shooting out to max point blank with no holding. Took off the turret cap to dial onto a distant rabbit but couldn't for the life of me remember which way was up and down? So that boy got away unmolested. Anybody else using one of these or similar for small game? Edited August 16, 2015 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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