Vince Green Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) My friends in mid Wales use FMJ bullets in their .223s for foxes because its a very long drive to go and buy expanding bullets. They have done it for years and they reckon there is not a significant difference in what happens at the other end. In some European countries (I think maybe Denmark but don't quote me) expanding ammo has never been popular for hunting. Premature 'explosive' expansion on foxes has always been a concern with hummers but the reason may be the same with the .22-250. The foreleg bone and shoulder knuckle is in the way of where people think the heart should be. Actually a foxes heart is lower slung in the ribcage. Many people instinctively would aim higher and or further forward Edited October 26, 2015 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted October 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 My friends in mid Wales use FMJ bullets in their .223s for foxes because its a very long drive to go and buy expanding bullets. They have done it for years and they reckon there is not a significant difference in what happens at the other end. In some European countries (I think maybe Denmark but don't quote me) expanding ammo has never been popular for hunting. Premature 'explosive' expansion on foxes has always been a concern with hummers but the reason may be the same with the .22-250. The foreleg bone and shoulder knuckle is in the way of where people think the heart should be. Actually a foxes heart is lower slung in the ribcage. Many people instinctively would aim higher and or further forward Good points, we did try some fmj and they did work well yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) My friends in mid Wales use FMJ bullets in their .223s for foxes because its a very long drive to go and buy expanding bullets. They have done it for years and they reckon there is not a significant difference in what happens at the other end. In some European countries (I think maybe Denmark but don't quote me) expanding ammo has never been popular for hunting. Premature 'explosive' expansion on foxes has always been a concern with hummers but the reason may be the same with the .22-250. The foreleg bone and shoulder knuckle is in the way of where people think the heart should be. Actually a foxes heart is lower slung in the ribcage. Many people instinctively would aim higher and or further forward Looking at that picture, I do actually aim where you say people tend to. Slightly further forward, and slightly higher. However, I aim at that point because (I was always told) you want the bullet to strike on the largest bone mass, as that will give the greatest transfer of energy to the target creature. I'd be slightly concerned about possibly hitting below the heart, and causing a non-fatal belly wound, aiming at the point indicated. I'll say however that I'd certainly be happy to hear arguments in favour of that aim point; it's just always struck me that the heart on a fox is quite a small aim point. Edited October 27, 2015 by robbiep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted October 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 In the image, the marker on the chest is exactly my aim point, forget energy transfer mumbo jumbo, vent them lungs and its done, and it don't need much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Well I'm surprised, I don't know, I must be using magic bullets. Fox front on,,, I aim at the top of white bib. Side on,,, higher and Further forward of the shown aim point. ? That gives me allot more margin for error, wind or target moving, oh and bullet drop.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 I used 50gr Vmax for years, not 22-250 speeds but well north of 3000fps rarely had exits but sometimes they would make a mess on the way in if the full elbow was hit I switched to 52gr AMax for price and sourcing reasons much better results on entry worked almost like a soft point with decent exits most times they are cheap, arrive in the post and work a charm shame my current 1:14" wont shoot the ******* things! had to sell 400 of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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