winnie&bezza Posted April 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Cheers dougy. I know what you mean and I thought that when I was doing it,but the original stock was like that and have tried butt pad and it works lovely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Your French polisher will probably just blend the little circle in before you put your finish on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted April 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Hope so figgy as it's annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 winnie the little circle looks like it could be a dab of glue that might have been used to stick the wood on the bottom of the grip part, I did a table and exactly the same thing happened when I put a stain on, the glue has basically sealed the wood and would not let the stain soak in, it looks great mate, well done, atb Evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted April 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I thought maybe it could be that but I sanded all that area before oiling. Maybe I didn't sand enough! Cheers mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted April 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Took stock to French polisher mate and he just used a colour pen and dobbed it a few times and it's basically disappeared :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Knew he would watched French polishers do a few oak staircases and he did this on lots of plug pellets that didn't quite match the grain and colour. Near invisible when done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted April 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Knew he would watched French polishers do a few oak staircases and he did this on lots of plug pellets that didn't quite match the grain and colour. Near invisible when done. A lot less work than I expected. Thinking about getting some of the pens for work if something goes wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I use a lot of coloured soft waxes for any woodwork I do. But I've seen the pens. The French polisher I watched used a artists brush and tints in pots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 What glue are you using ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted April 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I use a lot of coloured soft waxes for any woodwork I do. But I've seen the pens. The French polisher I watched used a artists brush and tints in pots. Its very interesting and some of its simple. It's a lovely feeling when you make a cock up disappear. What glue are you using ? I used titebond 3 to stick the ebony cap on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) Its very interesting and some of its simple. It's a lovely feeling when you make a cock up disappear. I used titebond 3 to stick the ebony cap on. is that like mitre fix ? Just googled it. Says unaffected by finishes lol. We use sovereign chemicals pu glue. It stains 100% and is soooo easy to use. £5 a tube if you'd like to try some I could post it;) Edited April 24, 2016 by team tractor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted April 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I'm not up on glues as much as you probably are! Haha thanks god for that I started to panic as I should of researched it and hadn't. Yeah go on then I'll have a tube. Pm me how you want paying. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameswrx Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Nice work and great piece of wood. I used to work in wood finishing on high end products and we'd have stain pens in many colours, very useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted April 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Thanks James and it's actually two pieces laminated together. They certainly seem useful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASunnyD Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 Do you think it would be possible to turn a break barrel into a bullpup? I'm getting ideas for a future project and you've inspired me to want to make a new stock but I want to try something different I've tried YouTube and Google and I can't find much useful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 (edited) You can but the fore part of the stock has to be fully slotted to allow the barrel to break. You need to make a linkage for the trigger and fit a scope rail adapter for forward mounting. Remember seeing some done in the eighties when the SA80 mod rifle was issued Bullpups became the in thing. Edited April 26, 2016 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASunnyD Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 Can you remember how they went about mounting the scope probably forward of the breech? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted April 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 Agree with figgy. I'm okay with wood but making linkages etc is out of my comfort zone. I'd need a break barrel in front of me to think about how to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASunnyD Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 (edited) Same here but it's definitely a spanner in the works, the barrel would not only want to have its breech where the scope is mounted but also pass through the trigger, and I would only assume having the trigger offset may affect the accuracy during the pull. I don't know, I might pick up an old springer from the market one day cheap and take it all to pieces and get my sketch book out amd have a play about I will be sure to keep you all informed and if anyone has any advice or input please let me know, any help is welcome! It might be a side lever job in the end Edited April 26, 2016 by ASunnyD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) You can buy a scope mounting rail for Bullpups have s look online at Bullpup stocks. The linkage is easy it's only a bar and clamp from one trigger to the other. The main limiting factor is your scope can only go forward to the point where you need enough room to load the breech when the barrel is broken. Supposed they would be classed as semi Bullpup by today's pcp guns. Something around the Compatto will be what you can achieve. You can find the linkages you need on cars on fuel systems and turbo actuators, just cut and alter to suit your needs. I use to love a eighties Bullpup for ease of carry and balance but cocking can be more difficult without that longer sporter stock for leverage. If you do go ahead with it keep us posted with pics and write ups, be great to see your build develop. Been racking my brain trying to remember how the hot round the scope issue, sure I saw a twisting scope mount to allow cocking and loading. The way I would go and this may have been done back in late eighties is to find a strong scope rail and drill it to mount onto where the rear open sights were mounted on the breech of the barrel. You would then get the Bullpup short enough to look right. Sorry for straying off topic Replying to others. Edited April 27, 2016 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted April 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 You can buy a scope mounting rail for Bullpups have s look online at Bullpup stocks. The linkage is easy it's only a bar and clamp from one trigger to the other. The main limiting factor is your scope can only go forward to the point where you need enough room to load the breech when the barrel is broken. Supposed they would be classed as semi Bullpup by today's pcp guns. Something around the Compatto will be what you can achieve. You can find the linkages you need on cars on fuel systems and turbo actuators, just cut and alter to suit your needs. I use to love a eighties Bullpup for ease of carry and balance but cocking can be more difficult without that longer sporter stock for leverage. If you do go ahead with it keep us posted with pics and write ups, be great to see your build develop. Been racking my brain trying to remember how the hot round the scope issue, sure I saw a twisting scope mount to allow cocking and loading. The way I would go and this may have been done back in late eighties is to find a strong scope rail and drill it to mount onto where the rear open sights were mounted on the breech of the barrel. You would then get the Bullpup short enough to look right. Sorry for straying off topic Replying to others. No worries figgy, doesn't bother me mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASunnyD Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 Figgy, great idea mounting the scope to the barrel, can you remember how they went about the barrel break and how it would want to pass through the trigger system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) Sunny it should be the same as with modern pcp Bullpups linkage as the trigger is same whether twanger or pcp. It's a long bar with a clamp to the original trigger blade and link to whatever trigger you make or mount in your stock. Edited April 27, 2016 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASunnyD Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Yeah I was more confused at how the barrel would try to pass through where the trigger would be, unless I offset the trigger which would probably pull my aim off to the side of the trigger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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