rabbiter Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 does anyone know where I can but 40gn .223 ammo in north east,i don't reload myself,so need to buy some,ive got some .223 once fired sako brass if anyone local could load some for me,id pay ofcourse,thanks in advance guys............DAZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Not legal to buy reloaded ammo. Get someone local to show you how to do it. Lee loader sets are a good way to start & are very cheap to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbiter Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 ok thanks mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Not legal to buy reloaded ammo. . Never knew this! Would that count if it was payment in kind too? Like hire or reward. I couldn't pay you to reload for me but I could give you £50's worth of red wine for X many rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Buy the components yourself and let someone load them for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Never knew this! Would that count if it was payment in kind too? Like hire or reward. I couldn't pay you to reload for me but I could give you £50's worth of red wine for X many rounds.Sticky ground. ....part of the reason for the law is to make sure ALL commercially available ammunition has been tested as safe...It's not the "sale" that's the issue....it's the item offered for sale not having passed a CIP Proof Haopy to give lessons if I was closer...it's a good part of the hobby in itself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) This may help, I think the industry prefer us to be ignorant of the law ! c. cartridges loaded or reloaded in small quantities for personal use or, free of charge, for the use of friends. Such cartridges shall not bear the C.I.P. mark of inspection and shall not be subject to C.I.P. provisions. They may however, if national legislation so permits, circulate within the Member States of the C.I.P. and be used there freely. Full document is below above extract from page 26 from Birmingham proof house website. For cartridges read ammunition as per the full document. http://www.gunproof.com/Proof_Memoranda/RULESOFP.PDF It is this exemption above, that let's us reload at all, otherwise it would be illegal. Now as I understand it the only sticky point is the definition of "small quantity" which has to the best of my knowledge never been legally defined i.e. Is .it 10,100, 1000, 10,000 etc. Rb Edited January 13, 2016 by rbrowning2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbiter Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 getting interesting this now............but can anyone tell me if any rfd"s in north east sell 40 grainers,lol............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 A few phone numbers on this page http://www.gundealer.net/north/durham.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Quick search on the net hornady do 40g vmax factory ammo, not 100% sure but nozler may do them also. Best bet is to rin your local RFD's and ask, if they don't have any order them in. What rifle and twist rate are you using them for. Shot nozler 40G in my cz 527 1:9" twist and a mates cz527 1:12" twist they worked in both. But they where home loads. You can't beat factory 55g vmax or 55g hornady tap or 60g hornady tap in both rifles mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Which part of the North East? Who've you phoned already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbiter Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 oh nice one mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbiter Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Newcastle mate,my regular rfd only sells 55"s and the other frd I use only goes as low as 50,although he did have 1 box of 40"s which I bought and tried,my rifle shoots excellent groups with them,but alas no more ammo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbiter Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 A bolt 1:12 mate,tried the 55"s you mention above,my rifle just doesn't like them,i can gat a 2 inch group (at best) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Pukka Bundhooks near Birtley Bradford stalker. Bagnalls. Sunderland Mayfair range/club has an rfd attached (on Durham Road) I think there is an rfd in So. Shields still New one near millfield on the A68 near Wooler If you get stuck I can swing by when next down that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Winchester, remington, ppu,sako,nozler.have you tried any of those. Ppu is poo in mine. 55g vmax factory loads for fox,55g ppu for muntjac and Im homloading 52g amax for target and trying others at the moment. Stick at it you may find somthing that shoots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Oh....my gats love the 52gr A-max bullets. Gan like laserz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Oh....my gats love the 52gr A-max bullets. Gan like laserz Have you tried the 53g Amax yet. If so I may be intrested in load data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbiter Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 my two regulars are bagnalls (only do 55"s) and Weldon,i get sako arrowheads 50gn from james,and my rifle shoots quite well with thm,but nowt like the 40"s I got from him,i could ask him when I go to pick up my new trousers next week I suppose,thanks though guys,been very helpful Winchester, remington, ppu,sako,nozler.have you tried any of those. Ppu is poo in mine. 55g vmax factory loads for fox,55g ppu for muntjac and Im homloading 52g amax for target and trying others at the moment. Stick at it you may find somthing that shoots. I have found something mate,just cant get them lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Bresher500 on this and other forums, sells the Lee Loader kit now and again. It would be good for someone starting out reloading. Instead of spending the earth on all the gear. Just youtue the Lee Loader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbiter Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 I don't really think I go through enough rounds to warrant the outlay on reloading mate,i have thought about it though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 I can get the Lee Loaders for about £25 Cheap way to start & ideal for a few foxing rounds per year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmy1100 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 northern sportsman ltd in jarrow he does 40 grain hornday v max £21.00 take look on his website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 It's worth it.the first time you pull the trigger on your Homeloads you will shut your eyes and brace yourself. Then work out its safe £25 for a loader £35 for powder £15-£25 for 100 heads £4 for 100 primers and away you go. I used 52g amax, ccibr primers,ppu brass and Hodgdon blc2 in my 223.£80 and you have 100 rounds of whatever you desire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Different bullets but my homeloads are well under £30 per hundred... And the loader is not dead money as it has a resale value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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