Glenlivet Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 I've just stripped the yacht varnish off the fore end of my Williams. The chequering is pretty worn and I'm guessing the stock will be the same. I know there are a few stock men on here, how much would it cost to rechequer stock and fore end or would it be better to leave it as authentic old gun wear and tear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) If it's really well worn I'd have it recut as it makes the gun more usable. You don't have to go to the point of sharp chequering. If your restoring the gun it has been stripped and cleaned you may aswell recut the chequering as you will have lost any patina anyway. Edited January 31, 2016 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted January 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) No patina as someone yacht varnished all the wood - 2mm thick The original owner was a fair bit smaller than me as I can see where the fore end chequering has worn on the thumb and finger positions - a story in itself. I'll strip the stock and then make a decision but some indication of cost would be useful. Edited January 31, 2016 by Glenlivet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 long hours and can be pricey depending on your patience level you could always do it yourself with a Dem bart kit a lot easier to re-cut than cut from scratch I recut a parker hale rifle stock and it transformed it juts chip away at it little by little and it worked a treat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted January 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 I've not long given up smoking, I'd end up torching it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Can re do this for around £150 for total re finish and chequering re cut Am based near Kendal, I make stocks for a living... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted January 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Can re do this for around £150 for total re finish and chequering re cut Am based near Kendal, I make stocks for a living... Stock and fore end? Dings removed ( not many) and oil finished? Know the area well, used to live in Halton (just outside Lancaster) and Lakes were part of my region. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Re cutting on older gun is often harder than starting from scratch. To just lift it won't be horrendous drop me a PM if you want to know more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted February 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Re cutting on older gun is often harder than starting from scratch. To just lift it won't be horrendous drop me a PM if you want to know more. I've just stripped the stock so waiting to clean it up to see how it looks. I will also wait until I get the second gun I bought from the Bosh before I decide which to 'invest' in. This one could be my learning/practise project. Might be nice to leave it showing its age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 A bit of age is one thing, not being able to keep hold of the gun in adverse weather due to no grip is another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted February 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I have stripped all the varnish off the stock and started sanding down. Half the stock has obviously been badly stained at some time and is sweating oil!!! I've sanded fairly aggressively but not really making progress. Has anyone seen anything like this before? Is it likely to dry out given time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 If it's soaked with oil, you have to keep heating it and wiping off the oil as it bibles to the surface with absobant wipes blue paper towels etc and keep repeating until no more oil comes out. It looks like it's been bathed in the stuff. Have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted February 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) If it's soaked with oil, you have to keep heating it and wiping off the oil as it bibles to the surface with absobant wipes blue paper towels etc and keep repeating until no more oil comes out. It looks like it's been bathed in the stuff. Have fun. Bathed and then sealed in varnish! Could be a long project at this rate! Thank God they didn't soak the whole stock 😣 Edited February 2, 2016 by Glenlivet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) You think you are having a hard time, I'm rubbing down stair spindles/newels/bannisters. They started virtually black, with layers of different varnish/stain/oil. The spindles you can see have already had considerable work on them, the newels are coming on, they are a Light coloured Hardwood/Redwood, I don't know what they are, at one stage I thought they may be hemlock, but they're not, neither are they pine. Certainly not your usual Walnut, Mahogany etc! I truly wish I'd never started. Good luck to you. It doesn't seem to come over in the pic but there is a red hint in the sanded wood. And yes, if you get the stock cleaned I'd have a go at improving the chequering! Edited February 2, 2016 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted February 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 You think you are having a hard time, I'm rubbing down stair spindles/newels/bannisters. They started virtually black, with layers of different varnish/stain/oil. The spindles you can see have already had considerable work on them, the newels are coming on, they are a Light coloured Hardwood/Redwood, I don't know what they are, at one stage I thought they may be hemlock, but they're not, neither are they pine. Certainly not your usual Walnut, Mahogany etc! I truly wish I'd never started. Good luck to you. 2016 005b.jpg And yes, if you get the stock cleaned I'd have a go at improving the chequering! You have my sympathy. I only once tried stripping a bannister, ended up ripping it out and getting a new one fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 You have my sympathy. I only once tried stripping a bannister, ended up ripping it out and getting a new one fitted. That has certainly gone through my mind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I have stripped all the varnish off the stock and started sanding down. Half the stock has obviously been badly stained at some time and is sweating oil!!! I've sanded fairly aggressively but not really making progress. Has anyone seen anything like this before? Is it likely to dry out given time? 20160202_144240.jpg That oil soaked start with traditional whitening then there a few other options as well but a bit more complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDS Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Cat litter (it is clay based) can be used to pull oil out of a stock Put the stock in a cardboard box covered in the litter and leave in a warm room...you can start it off with a hairdryer To speed up the process crush the litter as fine as you can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted February 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) That oil soaked start with traditional whitening then there a few other options as well but a bit more complicated. What's traditional whitening? Sorry, you're speaking to a numpty! Cat litter (it is clay based) can be used to pull oil out of a stock Put the stock in a cardboard box covered in the litter and leave in a warm room...you can start it off with a hairdryer To speed up the process crush the litter as fine as you can Like this idea, cat litter I understand. Although given my luck the dog would start cocking his leg on it😣 Edited February 2, 2016 by Glenlivet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDS Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 It is actually whiting...calcium carbonate or more commonly fine ground chalk More oil removal methods here http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?16642-Whiting-Gun-Stocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted February 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) Interesting, thanks. Didn't understand the bit about leaving it in the heat of the sun. If I still lived in Sicily though..... Does anyone think a powdered chalk and white spirit paste might speed things up? Edited February 2, 2016 by Glenlivet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 It is actually whiting...calcium carbonate or more commonly fine ground chalk More oil removal methods here http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?16642-Whiting-Gun-Stocks Exactly easy to get hold of effective but not fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted February 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 This is where I'm at after sweating the stock last night. A big improvement, it's not as dark as it looks in the photo. Unfortunately looks like I'll have to remove all the chequering to finish the job. A visit to junkyard dog in the offing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted February 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 The other side of the stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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