TONY R Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 (edited) Any body know what press this is from please .? Edited August 25, 2016 by TONY R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 An old one! Lol. Sorry bud no idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Is it some patent of a resizing die? Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1961 Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Looks like an old clutch adjuster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted August 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 No its a crimp finisher for a 12 bore, it has a spring inside it ans a rod runs through it, as it goes down the threads rotate the head as iuts crimping it works great on paper which i sispect it was made for, and indeed plastic cases, i have run it in a texan nmodel L now and again and an old Mec 650 i have, But i would like to know what pres its from. I have a few preses coming in from the states a mate has been gathering them up as i buy them off ebay and off vthe trade over there and mexico, if i can find out the pres type ill try and find one to add to the others. Anybody know what its off? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Is the finished a crimp or a rolled turover? Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted August 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Is the finished a crimp or a rolled turover? Feltwad Its just a crimp head but as the crimp is being folded the big thread imparts a slight spin on the final crimp it acctualy works very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Its just a crimp head but as the crimp is being folded the big thread imparts a slight spin on the final crimp it acctualy works very well. I have several American cartridge rolled turnover tools but I never seen a crimp one like yours ,has for which machine it came from I cannot say maybe it was a single item Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarepeg Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Could be of the hornaday Pacific, just let one go with a similar idea that roll turned it has you pulled the handle down, worked same as some screw drivers where you just push and it spins,it could be prewar when crimping hadn't caught on. Joun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted August 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Any idea what model pasific it was snarepeg ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted August 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 I have several American cartridge rolled turnover tools but I never seen a crimp one like yours ,has for which machine it came from I cannot say maybe it was a single item Feltwad Yes there were a few wierd and wonderfull ideas being thrown about back in the day, its an idea that works and with a soft spring it can rto finish in a single stroke, if you dont have the centre bolt not in the pic adjusted long enough it rols but leaves a spur on the roll like if you had rolled on in a drill too fast if you get me. But if it does a full stroke it works great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarepeg Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Yes. It came of a Lyman easy. So not the Pacific. I had all the different gauges to fit on the bottom for roll turnover ing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted August 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Yes. It came of a Lyman easy. So not the Pacific. I had all the different gauges to fit on the bottom for roll turnover ing. Thank you . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 I,ve seen something similar to this in a schematic diagram......I,ll search through my old catalogues to see if it,s there....Snarepeg is right, it,s similar in action to the old "Yankee" screwdrivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted August 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 If you can come up with anything thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 ah ha! I think I can see how it works now!.....still don't know what it's off though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 hello tony, i chat over the internet to a gunsmith (Terry) in the Michigan state of USA he runs and lives in the wilds outback gun smithing/ shooting shop/ all manner of shooting stuff, i can ask him if you can email photos?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted August 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 (edited) It came with 1 and a part of 1 savage 630 12ga preses i got from an old chap now sadly dead i used to wildfowl with from near hesketh, there was a french rto tool with it and some .222 dies. all sat in a box for 20 years or more untill about two years ago mate needed some .222 dies i went and got them picked this oiut the box at the same time stood it on the shelf, i keep looking at it and just like to know what its from, i dont think its savage i long ago sold the savages the part 1 i turned into an 8 bore pres . but i have fitted this head in a texan l series for tests and it works ok. hello tony, i chat over the internet to a gunsmith (Terry) in the Michigan state of USA he runs and lives in the wilds outback gun smithing/ shooting shop/ all manner of shooting stuff, i can ask him if you can email photos?? Be great that mister, drop me a pm with your email and ill send them. Edited August 27, 2016 by TONY R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 What,s the size of this? I have a Savage 630, pretty sure it,s not for that.....What,s the thread at the end of it? Is it an american thread? I,ve looked through a pile of old paper catalogues, but nothing like it. Yet I am pretty sure I,ve seen something like it before....I,m currently ploughing through Stoegers 1939 catalog for the New York World,s Fair....a bit like a giant Freemans catalog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted August 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 Its american and its just over three inch long and just over an inch wide, 12 bore head in it, Not sure of the thread its pretty coarse thread lots of different threads back then not sure. It did not fit the savages it was just vwith a load of bits came with them. One was incomplete as i said i converted that for the 8 bores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 I,ve had no luck with my old catalogues, so I have contacted a friend in Oregon, he has a huge collection of old catalogues, some pre-WW2, to see if he can shed light on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted August 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 I,ve had no luck with my old catalogues, so I have contacted a friend in Oregon, he has a huge collection of old catalogues, some pre-WW2, to see if he can shed light on this. I dont know why i feel this, just a hunch here, but i think it is indeed pre WW2. . I must say i really do apreciate the effort you are putting in here to try and find this out for us, Thank you Sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 No problem, it,s stirred my curiousity (my wife says I,m like a dog with a bone when looking for something). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 No luck from my pal in Oregon, but I,m off to the states for a month on Tuesday, and will be dropping into P/W factory, amongst other places, will take the picture with me...It looks too professional to have come of a "home made" device. I thought it might have come of a Stout machine, but on closer inspection of the only picture I have of these rare beasts, it is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted September 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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