deadeyedick Posted February 24, 2004 Report Share Posted February 24, 2004 I'm looking to buy a good rifle purely for stalking in the UK. I'm a traditionalist in both calibers and looks.... (i.e .243, .308 etc. and a nice walnut stock!) So, for a budget of around £800, what would be a good NON english make (crazy money!). I've always liked German makes (esp. mauser action), however the likes of Blaser are too expensive for me! What other german makes are there?? I'm prepared to buy second hand too.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammergun Posted February 24, 2004 Report Share Posted February 24, 2004 I've a mate selling a .303 If you want me to ask him, PM me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 Ruger 77 MK2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 Visit www.guns.gb.com I was haveing a look yesterday and he had a few interesting rifles. He is located near Wigan. I prefer Sako. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomondley Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 If you are not going to reload then i would go for one of the easily available calibres. Next thing is are you ever going to shoot foxes with it ? Then are you ever going to Lamp foxes? If the answer to both of these is yes, then i would go for a .243. Then if you ever want to improve the flatness of its shooting you can have it ackley improved and load your own for it. A .243 is sufficient for anything in this country, and is a very versatile calibre. Light fast rounds for long range foxes, and slower heavier rounds for the larger deer species. For eight hundred pounds i would look at one of the sako's, imho a better rifle than the tikka. Dealer wise i have always found westcountry guns to be the best for any rifles, and both haggis and sue there are always very honest, and very competitively priced. Personaly i have never liked ruger rifles and find the anatomics of the stock terrible. When i move to suffolk at the end of the year i will definately go for an ackley improved .243, probably the sako heavy barrel stainless laminated, and put a reflex mod on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 chomondley I am not familiar with the term ackley improved, and would be obliged if you could provide a simple explanation. regards webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomondley Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 hope this helps http://www.angelfire.com/sd/6mmackley/ http://beartoothbullets.com/tech_notes/arc...ch_notes.htm/43 This is the most relevant information i can find, but it basicaly allows you to put the bullet out quicker, therefore flatter, and thus allowing longer shooting. But downside is you burn your barrel out quicker. Friends have .22/250 ackleys and they need new barrels every 18 months or so. But they do shoot a hell of a lot of foxes with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 .243 will kill anything here, but i still reccomend a .30 caliber. They have a wide range of loads, and have a little more umph for, say woodland fallow. You can shoot fallow with the .243 but it can bounce off ribs/sholders. A .30 will kill them with no doubt, plus it doesnt chew the meat up too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 chomondley Many thanks for the links, extremeley interesting stuff. I was considering .308, as I believed it to be a soft to the shoulder round, now I am not too sure. Further research required. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 http://www.dnrws.com/mannlicher/classic_ma...mannlicher.html The double set trigger version of this one. http://www.dnrws.com/mannlicher/SSG.html I would not think you will find a more accurate .308 that you would want to carry around. Note the barrel length. Plastic stock though! You get a target with shots fired from the gun, when you buy it. DON'T use RWS ammo in it! The bolt locking lugs are at the rear and it will jamb. This one also has a plastic stock. http://www.dnrws.com/mannlicher/prohunter.html They are not as expensive as you might think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Pieman Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 I have a Sauer 6.5x55 that has stopped every species of deer in the Uk (except CWD) very efficiently. It is also legal as a 'dual' rifle so I can use it for foxes too. If you shoot a fox with a 6.5 (even a badly placed rear ended shot) it doesn't get up again - ever! The energy/mass/shock is collossal. I've never noticed any significant meat damage either. PP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomondley Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 I have one of the Steyr SSG's that was mentioned earlier, mine is the P11 version, and is in .22/250. They are also now available in .243win. It is currently having an LEI moderator fitted, and have not shot it yet. However i was seriously impressed with the design and layout of the rifle, and it should be very accurate for an out of the box rifle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 The Tikka T3 looks quite good, I also remember reading an articul witch praised it. It wasnt to expensive either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurch Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 I've just bought a T3 Lite in .223 Haven't actually shot the ****** yet though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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