luckytrigger Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 Having got a buyer for my 22lr bolt cz and finding a lr22 semi auto i like the look of, i now need to put in for a one for one variation. Ive downloaded a firearms application form but im a little confused as what i need to fill in! It looks like i dont need to send in passport pics or pay a fee but i need to send of my firearms license? Any help /advice would be much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny bagger Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 You dont need photos or referances, just your fac and there is a fee, ive just sent off for a variation and its cost me £26, i dont know if differant police authorities have different costs, i`m with west mercia constabulary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckytrigger Posted June 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 You dont need photos or referances, just your fac and there is a fee, ive just sent off for a variation and its cost me £26, i dont know if differant police authorities have different costs, i`m with west mercia constabulary Im confused.. I only want a one for one variation not an extra slot adding on. Im selling one 22lr and want to aquire another 22lr surely they dont want a fee for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny bagger Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 if your not changing the calibre or type of rifle, then i wouldnt have thought that it would be classed as a variation, just a change of gun, however i have no experiance of this so dont quote me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 If you`re selling yours first and then buying the other later then I THINK you should n`t need a variation, however if you ask your FLO he will put you right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palombier Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 LT You are applying for a 1 for 1 free variation; but as with every variation you have to complete form 101, but as bb said no photos or referees are required however you must enclose your certificate as it will reappear with a new authority to acquire thereon. Regards P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootingman Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 A 1 for 1 is still classed as a variation & will cost u £26. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 A 1 for 1 is still classed as a variation & will cost u £26. No it isn’t. If you want to change one rifle for another (regardless of calibre) then you simply apply for a 1-4-1 variation. This is a free variation because you are getting rid of one rifle and then getting another and as such you aren’t increasing the number of rifles that you own. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 I thought a 1 for 1 is free too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuck1 Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 I'm with Graham. You must, however, dispose of gun 1 before aqquiring gun 2. Free. Your local RFD will advise. This is on the proviso that your cert does not specify the type of action - if it does, ie bolt action and you want a semi, then a variation would be required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 This is on the proviso that your cert does not specify the type of action - if it does, ie bolt action and you want a semi, then a variation would be required. Not so I’m afraid. It matters not what action you are acquiring whether it be a semi-auto a falling block or an under lever the 1-4-1 is exactly the same. All you need to do is tell you firearms dept that you are getting rid of one rifle and that you want to buy another. You then tell them what action you want to buy and if you are allowed by law to buy it then it is entered onto your ticket as a free 1-4-1. The only time you pay is if you want to get another rifle which then increases the number of firearms you own. This means that if you get rid of one gun and buy two new ones then you will pay £26 for a variation fee. However if you get rid of two guns and buy two new ones then you don’t have to pay as you are not increasing the number of guns in your possession. You will in essence be applying for 2 X 1-4-1 and that would not be charged for. If you want to sell your rifle then tell your firearms dept and at the same time tell them that you want to buy another. You must do this at the same time otherwise you will lose your 1-4-1 allowance and will be charged if you apply later on. A 1-4-1 is FREE. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 If you`re selling yours first and then buying the other later then I THINK you should n`t need a variation, however if you ask your FLO he will put you right. This is totally wrong information. You have to dispose of one firearm then send your ticket in to have the slot to aquire a new one put on it. It is a 1-4-1 and there is no fee payable, just phone your FEO if you have any queries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuck1 Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 I stand corrected thank you Graham. I remember many years ago there was a hoo ha about the wording on certificates, and we were all advised to apply for ".22 sporting rifle" as some forces were fussy about the type of action if it were specified on the certificate. This is where is got the (mis) information from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckytrigger Posted June 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Thanks for all the advice guys. Why does it have to be so complicated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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