owain Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 I'm not up - tight. As you say !!. I'm stating facts. What are you smoking man. What facts are you stating? And for the record, I'm smoking lambert and butlers 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil w Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 What facts are you stating? And for the record, I'm smoking lambert and butlers Erm, really. Read my posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andra Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 The words from a ?. Sycophantic !!. Errm no just providing a view on your post. Assume thats what you were expecting when posting on here. I would divert my energies into making a complaint from your perspective of the situation to the health board in question they all have complaints procedures and as I understand it the turnaround is quite quick these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owain Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Erm, really. Read my posts. Erm, they're not facts, they're your experiences and opinions. Both of which your more than entitled to. But so are others, and they don't have to be the same as yours. Great isn't it 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil w Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Errm no just providing a view on your post. Assume thats what you were expecting when posting on here. I would divert my energies into making a complaint from your perspective of the situation to the health board in question they all have complaints procedures and as I understand it the turnaround is quite quick these days. It would fall, on deaf ears. I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 I'm not up - tight. As you say !!. I'm stating facts. What are you smoking man. The facts are you have 3 options with drug addicts. 1) You can ignore them. That doesn't work though, they're not going to go away just because you pretend they don't exist. 2) You can treat them as criminals. If you want to follow that route then take a look at America which has more incarcerated people than anywhere else in the world and yet still has just as high a rate of drug use as anywhere else. You can like it or lump it, but prohibition does not, and will never, work. 3) You can acknowledge that drug abuse is an illness that needs to be treated. If you want to follow that route take a look at Portugal who decriminalized drugs 16 years ago and now has an overdose rate of 3 in 1 million as opposed to the EU average of 17.3 per million or our own UK rate of 44.6 per million. They have also seen a reduction in HIV deaths/cases. "The rate of new HIV infections in Portugal has fallen precipitously since 2001, the year its law took effect, declining from 1,016 cases to only 56 in 2012. Overdose deaths decreased from 80 the year that decriminalization was enacted to only 16 in 2012. In the US, by comparison, more than 14,000 people died in 2014 from prescription opioid overdoses alone." https://news.vice.com/article/ungass-portugal-what-happened-after-decriminalization-drugs-weed-to-heroin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil w Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Erm, they're not facts, they're your experiences and opinions. Both of which your more than entitled to. But so are others, and they don't have to be the same as yours. Great isn't it Wonderful, superb post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owain Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Wonderful, superb post. There ya go, don't worry be happy 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil w Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 OK, you think it's alright. To put infants and the elderly. To wait for junkies to be treated first. The infants and the elderly, should be treated first. It should be very clear to you, well hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil w Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 There ya go, don't worry be happy Oh, gosh !!. Thanks for that, you really have a way with words !!!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owain Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 I'm not arguing with you, your original post was about a centre for drug users opening near you and I gave my opinion on that. You have had a bad experience at the hospital with your daughter for which I genuinely have sympathy with you. However, when I've had cause to visit my hospital with the kids or for myself I've never had to wait behind cues of drug addicts to get seen. We obviously have very different views on this subject so I think now would be a good time to agree to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil w Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 I'm not arguing with you, your original post was about a centre for drug users opening near you and I gave my opinion on that. You have had a bad experience at the hospital with your daughter for which I genuinely have sympathy with you. However, when I've had cause to visit my hospital with the kids or for myself I've never had to wait behind cues of drug addicts to get seen. We obviously have very different views on this subject so I think now would be a good time to agree to disagree. I'm not here to argue either. You put you're input, that you believe. And so did I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fern01 Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 Its a disgrace those junkies are allowed to be treated before the drunks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 Its a disgrace those junkies are allowed to be treated before the drunks. 😂😂😂 What about those who are faking sick for their huge benefits they get? Is that fair? What preference in the que do they get? 😂😂 The OP may want to look up what TREATING drug users does. Last time I researched it properly (3 years ago for an academic paper) it was well know that for every £1 spent of rehabilitation drug users, we as a country saved £5 on reduced use of the NHS, Police, reduced crime, reduced use of the criminal justice system, reduce disease and illness. That's a cold hard fact! We SAVE MONEY through these types of projects, 4x more than they cost of average. But I suppose it's easier to be ignorant and wish the unfortunate dead then actually educate yourself on the topic, help another human being and save the country money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 Its a disgrace those junkies are allowed to be treated before the drunks. lol Take those drunks and drown them in a barrel of Malmsey wine, it's what they deserve!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil w Posted June 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 lol Take those drunks and drown them in a barrel of Malden wine, it's what they deserve!. Post of the week, well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 Post of the week, well done. Not sure why you've edited it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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