DukesArcher Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 If they were to go down this route, then I'd at least hope they'd scrap the 12ftlbs rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Wouldn't that be nice .but that won't happen either as it didn't in Scotland. Though id love to see .177 cal with no power limit and restrict. 177 pellet weight to 11 grns . That would mean it would top out at around 20 fpe . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukesArcher Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) Wouldn't that be nice .but that won't happen either as it didn't in Scotland. Though id love to see .177 cal with no power limit and restrict. 177 pellet weight to 11 grns . That would mean it would top out at around 20 fpe . If they trust us to own them, and we requires licences, then common sense should mean they'd remove the antiquated power limit law. Do they have any common sense........ Just an afterthought, if they do bring in licencing, then maybe just go ahead and get an FAC. Edited October 17, 2017 by DukesArcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 The minister's response included a few pointers that the current arrangements are as robust as its worth having. At the end of the day you cannot legislate for idiots. Idiots will still buy pitbulls for pets, drive without insurance, drink drive etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukesArcher Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 When can wr expect to hear the findings of the review? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini52 Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 I don't know what all the fuss is about.Is it not better that they are licenced?they are firearms after all.Every time some muppet injures some animal or civilian it falls on our shoulders.When I had sub 12lb,it was in the cabinet with the rimfire and 243.All where treated with the same caution and respect. The term firearm: relates to a weapon that takes a metallic cartridge,i remember reading it in a dictionary some time ago,an air rifle as we all know does not fire a metallic cartridge,the term firearm has been hyjacked by the government to try and impress on people that air weapons are something to be affraid of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 Does that make any difference? It's illegal to drive without insurance but it's estimated that 1 million cars are on the road uninsured. The problem is that there's no deterrent, the same with any crime where people get a fine, suspended sentence, community service or similar soft, lefty ****. Deliberate offence should mean a big penalty. I've always thought that first convictions should carry a big sentence as a real deterrent. So you would then support big penalty's for anyone that had a air rifle without a FAC if they became FAC only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serrac Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 "So how we'll has it worked in Scotland? How many licenced their air guns?" As of 30th June 2017,Ch Supt Barry McEwan told BBC Scotland he was "pleased with the success" of the air weapons project. "Members of the public embraced the legislation right away," he said. "They understood the danger that air weapons can bring to our communities in Scotland and 21,000 plus have handed their weapons in and we have destroyed them. "What we have also had, since then, is almost up to 15,000 people have applied for certificates of air weapons in Scotland.So out of an estimated 500,000 "air weapons" in Scotland prior to licensing, 36,000 have been accounted for.Suggesting we now have up to 440,000 newly created criminals in Scotland.Way to go SNP - have you told Visit Scotland to mention this in their adverts? Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 And here's me thinking the Scots were canny folk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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