tulkyuk Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 I want to apply for a variation and have been considering 2 different rifles and its gonna be either a .223 or 22-250, Which do think would be better for a dedicated Foxing rifle. I know i've got a .243 down for foxing & deer Stalking but would just like another rifle for the 1 purpose what are your thoughts Boys (and Girls of course ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_HMR Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 .22/250 if your not plannin on much range work and are reloading If you want to shoot targets .223 no contest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Option 3 - sell the 243 & don't bother with a 223 or 22-250 and go for one of these!! http://www.border-barrels.com/ BUT - if you did insist on one of the two you've mentioned; go for the 22-250 over the 223 everytime IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 If you want to shoot targets .223 no contest Why? The 22-250 a faster flater round, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_HMR Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 i dont shoot centrefire so my opinion does count really just what i read juse depends on use for a dedicated foxing rifle the .22/250 would be brilliant my dad shot one for years and accounted alot of dear with it as well. But for shooting at a range .223 is what everyone uses alot more rifles chambered custom jobs etc ammo is dirt cheap and fully available and barrel wear that people seem to be worried about. But as i said for a fox rifle if your reloading cant beat the .22/250 well maybe with a swift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegeta Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 agree with P there If you want a dedicated foxing rifle and it has to be 22/250 or a .223 then the smart choice is always the 22/250. More energy and faster. as he also points out though is that if it was for target shooting and foxing then the .223 starts to come back a bit. You reload though so that would keep ammo costs down but the 22/250 is a fast round which supposedly wears the barrel out quicker (I've not had a centerfire long to wear a barrel out) so this may be a consideration A few guys at the range I go to in Ireland use borderl barrels for their F class rifles. Those varmint ones look class but how much are they?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted June 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 I'm up for comments if you think there is a better round/rifle out there for foxing - remember i live in north wales and the FLO's up here are a bit funny on what they allow for 'a good reason to own'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 A few guys at the range I go to in Ireland use borderl barrels for their F class rifles. Those varmint ones look class but how much are they?? Circa £2500 I think was the price I was quoted last time I asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted June 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Circa £2500 I think was the price I was quoted last time I asked. dont really want to spend another £2500 on another (everyday use) Rifle - wife may hit the roof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 dont really want to spend another £2500 on another (everyday use) Rifle - wife may hit the roof Thought as much, hence I was saying to sell the Sako & not bother with a 223 or 22-250...just add a few more funds and get one...or don't, as you'll make me insanely jealous if you do!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted June 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Any body used a .20ppc ? i've also heard good comments about these too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Any body used a .20ppc ? i've also heard good comments about these too! No experience with it, but availability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 How many shots will be taken over 200yds? A .222 or a .223 will be all that is needed for a dedicated foxing rifle…and a lot cheaper on powder. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny bagger Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Ive applied for a variation for the same reason and after alot of research have opted for a 222 on grounds of accuracy and not wanting to over gun myself, i also dont want to give the flo any reason to refuse me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_HMR Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Other thing about .22/250 is that they are an accurate round so you could pick up a CZ for not very much in 22/250 and will shot sub moa. Whats said is right who shoots foxes at over 200yards i ranged the end of my field in front of my house at 280yards and i couldnt imagine shoot quarry at that distance 100yards does it for me at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted June 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 i agree that you dont very often shoot a charlie at 200yrds +, but there is always 1 that wont come in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Go for the .223 You'll be able to hit that 200+ yard fox with it as well. Furthest fox I've shot is 155, got that greycrow at 202, so if I can hit him there I can sure hit a fox there too I wouldn't be a fan of reaching out there at night however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 :lol: GO FOR THE 223 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 in the right hands 223 will go well past 200 yds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 How many shots will be taken over 200yds?A .222 or a .223 will be all that is needed for a dedicated foxing rifle…and a lot cheaper on powder. G.M. Yes, but, regardless of a bit more cost, will it niggle at you knowing how much better a 22-250 performs? If you know it won't get to you, go for the 223. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 paul give me 6 months and going to put in for the 223 think about the average distance you shoot all them fox's and tell me the 223 was not capable speak soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 What surprised me was that in dougy's 22/250 his homeloads sat the bullet a further 3/16" out the cartridge at the very least compared to most factory examples which I witnessed grouping no better than 3" at 100yds .The conclusion I came to was the factory ammo must sit way off the rifling .Not sure but to kiss the lands on his Sako 75 there ain't much of a 50 grn bullet inserted into the brass . I'm sticking to my .223 ....200yds at night is plenty far enough and them shot's to be safe you can count on one hand anyway when out Foxing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 That's a great reply fister...one of your best IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted June 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 That's a great reply fister...one of your best IMO i thought that too and has kinda convinced me into what will be next on the ticket - nice sako 75 in 22-250 - seen it yesterday will have nice matching pair too - ooh er missus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Excellent choice tulkyuk, you have good taste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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