17 hmr owners

[Guest rabgoat]

just wondering does anybody use the 20gr gamepoint and nowt else.what do you think of them for killing.cheers

[tikkamark]

just wondering does anybody use the 20gr gamepoint and nowt else.what do you think of them for killing.cheers

I use the 20gr xtp's they shoot very tight groups out of my gun even better than the v-max's they dont cause much meat damage either and if a fox crosses your path they do a lot better job of killing it cleanly than the v-max

[Guest rabgoat]

thanks mark,iv'e killed a couple of rabbits recently and i noticed when they were hit there wasn't a movement out of them they seemed to kill them out rite quicker

[al4x]

I think its likely to be co incidence. The reason they do less meat damage is exactly the reason why they don't necessarily kill rabbits as well. Meat damage shows the bullet has transfered most if not all of its energy to the rabbit. The gamepoints penetrate well but can go straight through far more easily without the same extent of transfer of energy.

[Guest rabgoat]

I think its likely to be co incidence. The reason they do less meat damage is exactly the reason why they don't necessarily kill rabbits as well. Meat damage shows the bullet has transfered most if not all of its energy to the rabbit. The gamepoints penetrate well but can go straight through far more easily without the same extent of transfer of energy.

i don.t know from what iv'e seen yes the gamepoint went straight through the two rabbits at 70yds,but on checking the rabbits there was a lot of internal damage the front leg on one was completly shattered,i done a couple of tests with beer cans full of water,with the ballistic tips the can was torn apart but stayed in one piece,and with the gamepoint the top half of the can was blew rite off and the rest ripped apart,so there must have been a lot of energy stayed in the can to rip the top off,

[pin]

Personally, and it's just an opinion, the 20gn hollow point ammo is missing the point of the little HMR pill.

 

The whole point, to me, is about the round being frangible and therefore avoiding our Irish friend rick-o-shea

 

The 20gn's have their purpose, perhaps for fox, perhaps for rabbit too where there are better backstops or whatever.

 

For me there isn't much meat damage if you hit them in the head

[invector]

I use 20 grain Gamepoints all the time, and wouldn't go back to 17 grain.

[steyrman]

just wondering does anybody use the 20gr gamepoint and nowt else.what do you think of them for killing.cheers

I use the 20gr xtp's they shoot very tight groups out of my gun even better than the v-max's they dont cause much meat damage either and if a fox crosses your path they do a lot better job of killing it cleanly than the v-max

what make of 17hmr do you have? i have the sako quad now and the cz american before that and neither grouped very well with the 20g i find the 17g better for grouping

[SPARKIE]

my cz loves the remington 17grains can do some right damage tho

[markbivvy]

Personally, and it's just an opinion, the 20gn hollow point ammo is missing the point of the little HMR pill.

 

The whole point, to me, is about the round being frangible and therefore avoiding our Irish friend rick-o-shea

 

The 20gn's have their purpose, perhaps for fox, perhaps for rabbit too where there are better backstops or whatever.

 

For me there isn't much meat damage if you hit them in the head

cant and wont argue with anyof this, but will add the hmr was not designed to fire 20 grn bullets.

[kip270]

I have only used CCi .17grainer's, and so far i am impressed, but my local RFD doesn't seem to be able to get much .17hmr ammo, only has remmy ammo at present, which is .17grian but i hate switching to different brands all the time

[invector]

Isn't it nice to be able to slot rabbits, with almost monotonous precision, whilst using a round for which my rifle wasn't designed? The 20 grain round was designed to minimise meat damage, while improving penetration, and the 20 grain Gamepoint won an award soon after it was introduced. So much for a renegade cartridge.

 

I would advise using 20 grain rounds when shooting foxes, simply because of the better penetration.

[markbivvy]

I would advise using 20 grain rounds when shooting foxes

 

i would advise a 50 grn round,but there you go.

[invector]

So would I, but we're talking about the .17HMR, clever clogs.

[markbivvy]

So would I, but we're talking about the .17HMR, clever clogs.

oooops sorry.

[invector]

Apology accepted.

[markbivvy]

Apology accepted.

it is mate.

[jcbruno]

I like them alot i have cleanly taken cotes,fox, and large hair rabbits with those