Simmons Whitetail classic

[rec-baller]

Just wondering if anybody else uses one of these scopes as ive just bought the simmons whitetail classic 6.5 - 20 x 50

Has anybody got any comments on them, any problems , i intend to use it on a .17hmr

[A Sick Old Man]

Hi Mate,

 

They are ok for what they are, and that is a budget scope that is not at the bottom of the heap.

 

But then is no where near the top either, I would work out what range your going to shoot, then ask yourself if your going to shoot at night?

 

I shoot out to 150m with my .17HMR and shoot at night with it, so I got a Swarvo (Exy ) it is terrific in low light and is very clear.

 

With My .22LR I shoot out to 100m and seldom use it at night, so I got a Simmons, it does the job and anything better would be a bit of an extravagant waste, why spend more on the scope than you would on the rifle?

 

I do not think you will go wrong with one,

 

All the best

[08shooter]

i have used my brother in laws and i thought the optics were pretty good but then thats just my opinion.i have seen a lot worse used on some hmrs and they do the trick

[dazza]

I have a Simmons on my .22lr and I'd recommend them the optics are very good (gun is unloaded)

[plinker]

i use the same scope on my hmr and it is more than up to the job 150yd rabbits no probs,good choice for the money.

plinker

[dazzyboi]

They are ok for what they are, and that is a budget scope that is not at the bottom of the heap.

 

 

Sorry to burst your bubble mate but Simmonds WTC are not budget scopes

 

Although i paid around £135 for mine (From America) it is worth alot more than that

[dazza]

I agree with dazzyboi I wouldn't say Simmons are budget scopes

[beatingisbest]

I agree with dazzyboi I wouldn't say Simmons are budget scopes

 

I agree too, i have a 6.5-20x50 simmons WTC aswell and it is a great scope, very clear and well made, i got mine for £50 brand new :(

[cartridge]

dazza can i just say i really like your gun i hope to have a fire arm certificate one day

[leeboy]

I dont consider them a budget scope.

 

I find mine to be excellent. I've had it 3 years or so and would highly recommend it.

 

I did get mine extremely cheap over the internet from a gun shop in Waco Texas. Its been used on several guns from air rifle to rimfire to .243

 

I think its very good quality and the optics are fine.

 

Ok it may not be a £1000 swaro but I've never seen the need for that sort of thing. I'd happily buy another.

 

 

Leeboy

[A Sick Old Man]

Ok Ok I am sorry they are not a budget scope, but price wise they are not at all expensive for the quality you get,

 

http://www.opticswarehouse.com/acatalog/co...ons_Scopes.html

 

Compared to say http://www.opticswarehouse.com/acatalog/Leupold_Scopes.html

 

Or these http://www.opticswarehouse.com/acatalog/Pe...pic_Sights.html

 

Leeboy I am glad you do not see the need for a Swarvoski, I will take your advice on board an dispense with my worthless bit of kit right away :(

 

YIS Sick

[Tony9r]

I dont consider them a budget scope.

 

I find mine to be excellent. I've had it 3 years or so and would highly recommend it.

 

I did get mine extremely cheap over the internet from a gun shop in Waco Texas. Its been used on several guns from air rifle to rimfire to .243

 

I think its very good quality and the optics are fine.

 

Ok it may not be a £1000 swaro but I've never seen the need for that sort of thing. I'd happily buy another.

 

 

Leeboy

 

:( ... mine's as good as anybody's expensive "branded" scopes that I've been out shooting with - it does it's job perfectly!

[dazzyboi]

They dont do the 6.5-20 Simmonds WTC in the UK i think, thats why its a good choice :( and for £105 + any custom charges! bargain

[codling99]

ive used a simmons 3.8-12-44 for a year or so on my .22 ,brill quality scope and lens.its up for sale now for 80 quid ,diamond mag reticule,took out many rabbits and odd fox,s+b forces sale :( cost 209 quid new.

 

http://www.excaliburenterprises.com/scopes...diamondmag.html

[leeboy]

Leeboy I am glad you do not see the need for a Swarvoski, I will take your advice on board an dispense with my worthless bit of kit right away :(

 

YIS Sick

 

If I was loaded I'd have a mega expensive scope. I'm certainly not suggesting people shouldn't spend however much they want on a scope. I know it is advised to spend as much on the glass as you do on the gun, I've just never really been convinced. If I can happily do the job for a coupla hundred quid I'm a happy man.

 

Dazzyboi, i think you are correct. I think the WTC 6.5-20x50 became unavailable here about 5 years ago (ish) When they were on sale here they retailed about

£260.

 

I got mine in a sale at an American gun shop for $97. !!! And for some reason I was never charged any import duty which was even more of a bonus.

 

Leeboy

[lazza]

I too didn't see the point in having an expensive scope, I thought the one I had was perfectly adequate. That was until I bit the bullet and bought an expensive one, I could then see the difference. It's really obvious just before dark when you can hardly see, or on the lamp, you look through the scope and you can see clearly. However it's what your happy with, but there is a big difference in quality and price.

[tikkamark]

I too didn't see the point in having an expensive scope, I thought the one I had was perfectly adequate. That was until I bit the bullet and bought an expensive one, I could then see the difference. It's really obvious just before dark when you can hardly see, or on the lamp, you look through the scope and you can see clearly. However it's what your happy with, but there is a big difference in quality and price.

:( You will see very quickly why swaro's,zeiss,s+b's and in my case kahles are expensive if you took one out with you some evening after a fox for example when light is fading thats when the expensive scope comes into its own Recently i shot a fox in on my patch at about 120yrds out in the dusk i couldnt see the fox with my eyes just spotted him as i scanned in front with scope and seen him perfect and a safe backround unreal light gathering with a kahles I had a wtc on my hmr before and they do the job but nothing spectacular

[jcbruno]

if you want a scope in that price range buy a bushnell simmons are pure **** i put one on my dads 308 browning safari bar for him and the danm thing didnt even have enough graduation in the dial to bring it on target so we put it on a old 243 and the light recoil of a 243 shook the lens loose on the range i woul not give a simmos scope to a terrorest

[A Sick Old Man]

The Simmons WTC I was recomeneded to get was the 1.5x5 / 20. when I first saw it I thought it would be ****

 

But now I have used it I must say its bloomin good for the money.

 

http://www.airgunsport.com/products.asp?P_ID=110

 

I have seen them for sixty quid in UK, for a .22RF shooting out to 100m its a very good scope for the money.

 

And its not bad in low light which surprised me, but trust me its pretty good.

 

With regard to your nightmare JC I had a lens fall out inside a Swarvo once, it was repaired free with a lot of appologies, I guess anything can go wrong. I wonder how many Simmons products fail, mind you if they do you wont get a lifetime gaurantee with one.

 

You can pick up a Zeiss 3-9 x40 Conquest in the States for $400 odd, with the current rate thats ?200, I would always recomend to save that bit more and go for real quality glass.