Lloyd90 Posted April 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, Old farrier said: That’s fine in a sort of way and if you’re happy with it fine my view a low bird is a low bird experience doesn’t make it any different it’s still low birds arnt something to practice on as I said before practice and then you’re confidence will help you get to the clay ground and shoot the longer distance stuff problem with some guns is there shooting for their dogs as they are big part of the day for them Not necessarily practice but everyone has to start somewhere. I spoke to one keeper last year who said he hated low flying birds, he described them as poor flyers, he then said at the end of the season he told the beaters to shoot every low flying bird that was safe, as he didn't want them breeding their poor flying into the stuff coming through next year. Apparently they did this for a few seasons and hardly have any low flying birds at all now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Lloyd90 said: Not necessarily practice but everyone has to start somewhere. I spoke to one keeper last year who said he hated low flying birds, he described them as poor flyers, he then said at the end of the season he told the beaters to shoot every low flying bird that was safe, as he didn't want them breeding their poor flying into the stuff coming through next year. Apparently they did this for a few seasons and hardly have any low flying birds at all now Appreciate what you’re saying and I sort of see it however all the lads I’ve taken out on there first days have NOT shot at low birds as it’s better to miss a good one not have a heap of dead one’s They are always proficient at high clays before we go on there day and they know how far 40 yards is sorry your keeper had a problem with the low flying birds maybe a variety change or placing the cover crop differently could be a solution very few commercial shoots relying on bred birds and sadly the one’s caught up for the game rearing are predominately the one’s that never flew well or the exceptional one’s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 OLD FARRIER I've always felt that we are actually shooting the wrong birds! For are we not shooting the very pheasants who have qualities we desire (the high flyers) and letting pass to live on into the breeding season the low flyers. In one sense therefore maybe we need a day in January when all the guns are briefed by the shoot captain "No birds over fifteen yards today please gentlemen...!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 I don’t think I have ever been on a beater’s day where the keeper has had to tell any of them that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 38 minutes ago, enfieldspares said: OLD FARRIER I've always felt that we are actually shooting the wrong birds! For are we not shooting the very pheasants who have qualities we desire (the high flyers) and letting pass to live on into the breeding season the low flyers. In one sense therefore maybe we need a day in January when all the guns are briefed by the shoot captain "No birds over fifteen yards today please gentlemen...!" I’m glad I’m not the only one to work it out fortunately we have a thing called sold days when you sell a bag to a group of city folks that think telegraph poles are 40 yards high and that sorts out the problem 🙄🤭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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