Neil23 Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 Can anyone tell me what the difference is between a 686special and a 686silver pigeon thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 My 686s was lighter than a 686, like a game gun as compared to a sporter. It had fixed chokes and a solid mid rib, again like a game gun. The only other difference was that the panels on the stock behind the action were smooth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 The "S" stands for sovrapposta which is Italian for superposed which is the word Browning coined way back for over/under. IDK the exact number but there were various versions of the 686S including a multichoke sporter. Sometimes badged as S686 + a name like Special or as 686S the main action and barrels were much the same During the 1990s the 686S guns were rebadged as the 686 Silver pigeon which again came in various versions such as Silver Pigeon S or C or SC... I doubt if anyone has a conclusive guide to all the variations of the original 686 Silver Pigeon but about 10 years ago the Silver Pigeon 1 was released with modern barrels and in either game and sporter configuration. The action design has hardly changed since the 686 was born, but they moved from forged internal parts requiring some hand fitting to investment castings around the time the Silver Pigeon came along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil23 Posted January 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 14 hours ago, Scully said: My 686s was lighter than a 686, like a game gun as compared to a sporter. It had fixed chokes and a solid mid rib, again like a game gun. The only other difference was that the panels on the stock behind the action were smooth. 1 hour ago, Westward said: The "S" stands for sovrapposta which is Italian for superposed which is the word Browning coined way back for over/under. IDK the exact number but there were various versions of the 686S including a multichoke sporter. Sometimes badged as S686 + a name like Special or as 686S the main action and barrels were much the same During the 1990s the 686S guns were rebadged as the 686 Silver pigeon which again came in various versions such as Silver Pigeon S or C or SC... I doubt if anyone has a conclusive guide to all the variations of the original 686 Silver Pigeon but about 10 years ago the Silver Pigeon 1 was released with modern barrels and in either game and sporter configuration. The action design has hardly changed since the 686 was born, but they moved from forged internal parts requiring some hand fitting to investment castings around the time the Silver Pigeon came along. Thanks for that ..very helpful. So quite similar to one another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agriv8 Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 IIRC Quite a lot of the parts are shared between a 686 and a silver pigeon. my memory could be wrong but the 686 was produced in a model called the 686 silver pigeon over time the 686 disappeared and it became known as the silver pigeon. my 1980s 686 has had a hard lose but go to game gun when walking the woods ! Agriv8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil23 Posted January 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Agriv8 said: IIRC Quite a lot of the parts are shared between a 686 and a silver pigeon. my memory could be wrong but the 686 was produced in a model called the 686 silver pigeon over time the 686 disappeared and it became known as the silver pigeon. my 1980s 686 has had a hard lose but go to game gun when walking the woods ! Agriv8 All canny guns though all the same yes ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 There are so many variations of the specs on the Silver Pigeons that the you can only be certain about the ones you or your mates own. For example, from the early 2000s the versions were Silver Pigeon 1, SP2, SP3, SP4 and SP5. Everything above the SP1 was designated 687. The sporters had Optima barrels and the game guns had Mobil barrels. Then there was the 687 Gold Pigeon and topping off the range the 687 Diamond Pigeon. The main differences between them all were cosmetic as the 686 & 687 share the same action although the Diamond Pigeon sporter has the same barrels as the 682 Gold E competition gun. The Silver Pigeon 3 has been re-released and the Diamond Pigeon seems to have remained in production too. All the rest were canned around the time the current 686 Silver Pigeon 1 was released. They're all pretty reliable and durable and there are plenty out there still going bang after many years and many thousands of rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil23 Posted January 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 8 hours ago, Westward said: There are so many variations of the specs on the Silver Pigeons that the you can only be certain about the ones you or your mates own. For example, from the early 2000s the versions were Silver Pigeon 1, SP2, SP3, SP4 and SP5. Everything above the SP1 was designated 687. The sporters had Optima barrels and the game guns had Mobil barrels. Then there was the 687 Gold Pigeon and topping off the range the 687 Diamond Pigeon. The main differences between them all were cosmetic as the 686 & 687 share the same action although the Diamond Pigeon sporter has the same barrels as the 682 Gold E competition gun. The Silver Pigeon 3 has been re-released and the Diamond Pigeon seems to have remained in production too. All the rest were canned around the time the current 686 Silver Pigeon 1 was released. They're all pretty reliable and durable and there are plenty out there still going bang after many years and many thousands of rounds. Interesting. Didnt relise there were that many. When some say proofed for standard steel what is "standard" classed up to? It's just I was looking at a 686 special and it started that on the add. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 Any nitro proofed gun is capable of shooting standard steel cartridge of the relevant cartridge length, as well as HP steel, but they’re not proofed for the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil23 Posted January 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 What's classed as standard steel ,is it up to a certain size such as 4 or 5 shot ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, Neil23 said: What's classed as standard steel ,is it up to a certain size such as 4 or 5 shot ?? There’s loads of info on here, including links, if you do a search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil23 Posted January 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Scully said: There’s loads of info on here, including links, if you do a search. Ok I'll have a gleg 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil23 Posted February 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 On 04/01/2022 at 15:03, Agriv8 said: IIRC Quite a lot of the parts are shared between a 686 and a silver pigeon. my memory could be wrong but the 686 was produced in a model called the 686 silver pigeon over time the 686 disappeared and it became known as the silver pigeon. my 1980s 686 has had a hard lose but go to game gun when walking the woods ! Agriv8 On 03/01/2022 at 03:47, Scully said: My 686s was lighter than a 686, like a game gun as compared to a sporter. It had fixed chokes and a solid mid rib, again like a game gun. The only other difference was that the panels on the stock behind the action were smooth. Got fixed up with a beretta 686s special for my son he loves it nice little gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 Sorted. Bullet proof. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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