ninjaferret Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 yeah the ladder looks ok , but trust me change your door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted September 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 20 minutes ago, ninjaferret said: yeah the ladder looks ok , but trust me change your door. I've started 😉👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjaferret Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, harrycatcat1 said: I've started 😉👍 To change it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted September 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, ninjaferret said: To change it ? To enlarge it full length 😉👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjaferret Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 Ah well i've tried to advise, i'm sure you'll figure it out yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted September 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) On 06/09/2022 at 13:57, ninjaferret said: Door would be better at the end with a step in , so door is higher off the ground. It would take more adapting on the end than on the side. 8 minutes ago, ninjaferret said: Ah well i've tried to advise, i'm sure you'll figure it out yourself. Why is it so important to have the door at the end?. Edited September 9, 2022 by harrycatcat1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, harrycatcat1 said: It would take more adapting on the end than on the side. Why is it so important to have the door at the end?. You dont need a step at the bottom of the door, the birds will be up the other end from the door when your getting in, they are more likely to fly over your head and out the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjaferret Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) It's better to have a step as you will have some birds scurrying about the floor and so vegetation doesn't fowl the door. Better to have the door on the end as it gives you more room and hopefully puts the birds to the opposite end. I only run 6 ladder traps , just a bit bigger than your's so to be fair i really don't know that much about them. Oh and for what it's worth i always wire the bottom aswell, just incase anyone or anything tries to get in from underneath. Then where would you be.... ? Good luck on your quest.. Edited September 10, 2022 by ninjaferret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted September 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, ninjaferret said: It's better to have a step as you will have some birds scurrying about the floor and so vegetation doesn't fowl the door. Better to have the door on the end as it gives you more room and hopefully puts the birds to the opposite end. I only run 6 ladder traps , just a bit bigger than your's so to be fair i really don't know that much about them. Oh and for what it's worth i always wire the bottom aswell, just incase anyone or anything tries to get in from underneath. Good luck on your quest.. Then where would you be ? Thank you very much for your advice and modesty. As I have said this one is just a prototype so there will be the odd hiccup along the way and no doubt I will find out when I use it. 😉 edited to say the basc video shows the door on the side so that's where the idea came from. Edited September 10, 2022 by harrycatcat1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted September 10, 2022 Report Share Posted September 10, 2022 1 hour ago, harrycatcat1 said: Thank you very much for your advice and modesty. As I have said this one is just a prototype so there will be the odd hiccup along the way and no doubt I will find out when I use it. 😉 edited to say the basc video shows the door on the side so that's where the idea came from. End or side door will make very little difference when entering the trap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted September 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2022 2 hours ago, old'un said: End or side door will make very little difference when entering the trap. I can't understand why a side door would be bad but then again I haven't used one yet so the jury is out. As I've said this is the prototype and is being built on a budget. If it works 💪 then I can learn from using it and make adjustments accordingly for the next one. I still welcome all suggestions though 😊 👍👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted September 10, 2022 Report Share Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, harrycatcat1 said: I can't understand why a side door would be bad but then again I haven't used one yet so the jury is out. As I've said this is the prototype and is being built on a budget. If it works 💪 then I can learn from using it and make adjustments accordingly for the next one. I still welcome all suggestions though 😊 👍👍 Just go online and see how many have a step below the door and how many have the door at the end, as I said it will make very little difference, side or end. When despatching birds It can get a bit hairy if you have 10, 20 or more birds flapping about, when I was involved with keeping we used a short handled landing nets to catch the birds, you might also consider wearing some protective eye goggles and garden gloves, also if its dusty a face mask, there's some nasty diseases you can pick up from bites, scratches and the dust, mind you, I know a few keepers who don't bother with any of the above and they are still alive. When you first site your trap leave the ladder off and the door open, then bait and watch for a week or so, that is unless you already have a call bird/s. To help stop predators possibly entering your trap, use an electric fence, although I have seen Badgers go through both the electric fence and the netting, make sure you have some high perches for the captive birds. Just one other thing about the netting, use 35mm wire mesh so smaller birds can escape, but its not a legal requirement to-do so. Edited September 10, 2022 by old'un Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted September 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2022 33 minutes ago, old'un said: Just go online and see how many have a step below the door and how many have the door at the end, as I said it will make very little difference, side or end. When despatching birds It can get a bit hairy if you have 10, 20 or more birds flapping about, when I was involved with keeping we used a short handled landing nets to catch the birds, you might also consider wearing some protective eye goggles and garden gloves, also if its dusty a face mask, there's some nasty diseases you can pick up from bites, scratches and the dust, mind you, I know a few keepers who don't bother with any of the above and they are still alive. When you first site your trap leave the ladder off and the door open, then bait and watch for a week or so, that is unless you already have a call bird/s. To help stop predators possibly entering your trap, use an electric fence, although I have seen Badgers go through both the electric fence and the netting, make sure you have some high perches for the captive birds. Just one other thing about the netting, use 35mm wire mesh so smaller birds can escape, but its not a legal requirement to-do so. Thanks for the information 👍 I do have leather garden gloves when dispatching magpies and taking them out of the larson trap as the beggars give a nasty peck. Goggles are a good idea too for catching them in the ladder trap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted September 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2022 Looking at it now down the garden and with hindsight it wouldn't have been too hard to put the door in the end. If only 😪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted September 10, 2022 Report Share Posted September 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, harrycatcat1 said: Looking at it now down the garden and with hindsight it wouldn't have been too hard to put the door in the end. If only 😪 Why??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted September 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2022 27 minutes ago, old'un said: Why??? Well, I don't mean better from an operational point, but in the case of my design the door would have been smaller and easier to make than on the side (if you look at my pictures) as I am making it a full size door 🚪, therefore less wood 😉👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted September 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2022 Operations have been stood for a day or two but after scrounging in a builders skip I think the I've found some wood suitable to finish off 👍 I did say it was being built on a budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted September 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 Getting close to finishing now, where would you say the best place to position it 🤔 Near the edge of field? In the middle of a field? At the side of a hedge? Under a tree? In a wood? What in your experience would be the best place ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted September 13, 2022 Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 33 minutes ago, harrycatcat1 said: Getting close to finishing now, where would you say the best place to position it 🤔 Near the edge of field? In the middle of a field? At the side of a hedge? Under a tree? In a wood? What in your experience would be the best place ? Normally where you have seen the largest number of birds, which could be a regularly used sitty tree/s, a field, around the farm yard, its knowing your ground that will help you decide. What do you intend baiting the trap with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted September 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 hour ago, old'un said: Normally where you have seen the largest number of birds, which could be a regularly used sitty tree/s, a field, around the farm yard, its knowing your ground that will help you decide. What do you intend baiting the trap with? Well, I was going to bait it with bread and any roadkill picked up a few days before. I was going to leave the detachable ladder off and leave the door open for a few days at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted September 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 We have a full size door 🚪 👍👍👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted September 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 I had to laugh today when I enlisted my wife to stretch out the netting whilst I got in a position to fix. She said "you do get some stupid ideas" don't think she was happy helping 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted September 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 Just got the netting to tidy up and it will be ready to deliver on site in a few days 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted September 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 Ready for transportation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 Perfect 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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