paul1966 Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 just read this in the local rag. some idiot shot injured a cat, not with the usual air gun but with a shot gun. the story is here- http://tinyurl.com/27g22k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 just read this in the local rag. some idiot shot injured a cat, not with the usual air gun but with a shot gun. the story is here-http://tinyurl.com/27g22k How bizzare! so the offence is in NOT killing it. Have no time for cats but i suppose it is somebodys pet. But then again whats it doing in soeones wood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 just read this in the local rag. some idiot shot injured a cat, not with the usual air gun but with a shot gun. the story is here-http://tinyurl.com/27g22k But then again whats it doing in soeones wood? Thats not an excuse to pull the trigger on a cat! Cats roam about all the time, you cant tell them where not to go, iv seen a few cats in the woods down by where i shoot, they belong to the person next door to the farmhouse, only difference is i identify my quarry before pulling the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Thats not an excuse to pull the trigger on a cat! Cats roam about all the time, you cant tell them where not to go, iv seen a few cats in the woods down by where i shoot, they belong to the person next door to the farmhouse, only difference is i identify my quarry before pulling the trigger. Tell that to a gamekeeper and he'll give quite a few 'good excuses' why cute little pussy cats should be shot for bieng in the woods They best comment i ever heard was a keeper having a conversation with a cat owner. it goes something like this Cat owner - 'have you shot my cat' Gamekeeper -' i havn't been in your garden' Cat owner - 'the cat wasn't in my garden' Gamekeeper - ' well then missus, it should of been ~ now good day to you' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest raymond1 Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 just read this in the local rag. some idiot shot injured a cat, not with the usual air gun but with a shot gun. the story is here-http://tinyurl.com/27g22k But then again whats it doing in soeones wood? Thats not an excuse to pull the trigger on a cat! Cats roam about all the time, you cant tell them where not to go, iv seen a few cats in the woods down by where i shoot, they belong to the person next door to the farmhouse, only difference is i identify my quarry before pulling the trigger. an emotive subject, cats have the right to roam ,granted by, i think "king james" after the plauge, however , did you know a cat has no rights off your own property, once it has left the confines of your property ,it is not considerd "your cat",neither can someone approach you for compensation for any damage it may have done,.if it was stated "it was doing damage to game or wild birds" it may be disspatched in a "humane" manner,that is the law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Thats not an excuse to pull the trigger on a cat! Cats roam about all the time, you cant tell them where not to go, iv seen a few cats in the woods down by where i shoot, they belong to the person next door to the farmhouse, only difference is i identify my quarry before pulling the trigger. Tell that to a gamekeeper and he'll give quite a few 'good excuses' why cute little pussy cats should be shot for bieng in the woods They best comment i ever heard was a keeper having a conversation with a cat owner. it goes something like this Cat owner - 'have you shot my cat' Gamekeeper -' i havn't been in your garden' Cat owner - 'the cat wasn't in my garden' Gamekeeper - ' well then missus, it should of been ~ now good day to you' I can see the problem if you were a keeper, but not otherwise. Fair play to him tho,lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 just read this in the local rag. some idiot shot injured a cat, not with the usual air gun but with a shot gun. the story is here-http://tinyurl.com/27g22k But then again whats it doing in soeones wood? Thats not an excuse to pull the trigger on a cat! Cats roam about all the time, you cant tell them where not to go, iv seen a few cats in the woods down by where i shoot, they belong to the person next door to the farmhouse, only difference is i identify my quarry before pulling the trigger. Identifing it? Whats that supposed to mean? I dont think it was shot mistaken for something else. It was probably shot because it was a cat in a wood full of gamebirds. Maybe welsh cats do something different but northumberland ones tend to kill birds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myuserid Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Whats the difference between a cat and a pheasant, the RSPCA don't bother with pricked pheasant, its the same thing! Although I don't entirely agree on shooting a cat, if the law quoted in that article was enforced, most of us would be in jail or £20,000 lighter in the pocket! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 just read this in the local rag. some idiot shot injured a cat, not with the usual air gun but with a shot gun. the story is here-http://tinyurl.com/27g22k But then again whats it doing in soeones wood? Thats not an excuse to pull the trigger on a cat! Cats roam about all the time, you cant tell them where not to go, iv seen a few cats in the woods down by where i shoot, they belong to the person next door to the farmhouse, only difference is i identify my quarry before pulling the trigger. Identifing it? Whats that supposed to mean? I dont think it was shot mistaken for something else. It was probably shot because it was a cat in a wood full of gamebirds. Maybe welsh cats do something different but northumberland ones tend to kill birds. Where on that report does it say a wood full of gamebirds? it doesnt? im not saying it wasnt but there is also that slight possibility of someone out shooting in the woods, spots something moving in the corner of his eye and flicks round and pulls the trigger. Whats not to say that he is a respectable shooter, realised his mistake but the cat got away injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest raymond1 Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Whats the difference between a cat and a pheasant, the RSPCA don't bother with pricked pheasant, its the same thing!Although I don't entirely agree on shooting a cat, if the law quoted in that article was enforced, most of us would be in jail or £20,000 lighter in the pocket! ahhhhh,......... the difference is this friend,....pheasants belong to people with a conflict of interests with the RSPCA (animal police wannabes) little old laddies leave vast fortunes to the protectionists , so there is lots of "milleage" to be had with another sob story "plucking away" at someones "heart strings",........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 just read this in the local rag. some idiot shot injured a cat, not with the usual air gun but with a shot gun. the story is here-http://tinyurl.com/27g22k But then again whats it doing in soeones wood? Thats not an excuse to pull the trigger on a cat! Cats roam about all the time, you cant tell them where not to go, iv seen a few cats in the woods down by where i shoot, they belong to the person next door to the farmhouse, only difference is i identify my quarry before pulling the trigger. Identifing it? Whats that supposed to mean? I dont think it was shot mistaken for something else. It was probably shot because it was a cat in a wood full of gamebirds. Maybe welsh cats do something different but northumberland ones tend to kill birds. Where on that report does it say a wood full of gamebirds? it doesnt? im not saying it wasnt but there is also that slight possibility of someone out shooting in the woods, spots something moving in the corner of his eye and flicks round and pulls the trigger. Whats not to say that he is a respectable shooter, realised his mistake but the cat got away injured. You are right it doesnt say wood full of game birds,but lots and lots of the woods are full of gamebirds at this time of year and you know aswell as i do the rspca wouldnt say if it was.They would rather portray the cat as just wandering along in a peacefull meadow full of flowers when out of the bushes comes the big bad hunter and blasts away at it for no reason. I wouldnt call someone a respectable shooter if he shoots at things he sees out the corner of his eye without really knowing what he is shooting at,infact i think they would be down right dangerous and should have their ticket removed asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 just read this in the local rag. some idiot shot injured a cat, not with the usual air gun but with a shot gun. the story is here-http://tinyurl.com/27g22k But then again whats it doing in soeones wood? Thats not an excuse to pull the trigger on a cat! Cats roam about all the time, you cant tell them where not to go, iv seen a few cats in the woods down by where i shoot, they belong to the person next door to the farmhouse, only difference is i identify my quarry before pulling the trigger. Identifing it? Whats that supposed to mean? I dont think it was shot mistaken for something else. It was probably shot because it was a cat in a wood full of gamebirds. Maybe welsh cats do something different but northumberland ones tend to kill birds. Where on that report does it say a wood full of gamebirds? it doesnt? im not saying it wasnt but there is also that slight possibility of someone out shooting in the woods, spots something moving in the corner of his eye and flicks round and pulls the trigger. Whats not to say that he is a respectable shooter, realised his mistake but the cat got away injured. You are right it doesnt say wood full of game birds,but lots and lots of the woods are full of gamebirds at this time of year and you know aswell as i do the rspca wouldnt say if it was.They would rather portray the cat as just wandering along in a peacefull meadow full of flowers when out of the bushes comes the big bad hunter and blasts away at it for no reason. I wouldnt call someone a respectable shooter if he shoots at things he sees out the corner of his eye without really knowing what he is shooting at,infact i think they would be down right dangerous and should have their ticket removed asap. Maybe i jumped the gun abit on that one, let me re-phrase it. Maybe it was someone who partakes in the sport rather than some chav wondering round the woods with a shotgun. If it was an air rifle i would suggest otherwise, but it was a shotgun. Not every chav ownes one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest raymond1 Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 gentlmen,......... the problem would appear to be this ,not so much as "another idiot on the loose", but his skills should have been honed a little more at the local clay club, the RSPCA openly addmits that cats dessimate the local songbird populations every spring, and what do they do ?,,,,,,,,,,, keep taking money from little old laddies and anyone else who is soft enough to keep giving it to them , if you had a dog that was left to roam,put out at night to go commiting whatever damge ,you would expect a knock on the door ,........the fact that it was in someones wood sealed its fate, the only trouble is ,it got back home the threat of the prosecution is "by the by", the assailent could quite easily deffend "his corner", dont forget , they are allways seeking something that gives them publicity, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 gentlmen,......... the problem would appear to be this ,not so much as "another idiot on the loose", but his skills should have been honed a little more at the local clay club, the RSPCA openly addmits that cats dessimate the local songbird populations every spring, and what do they do ?,,,,,,,,,,, keep taking money from little old laddies and anyone else who is soft enough to keep giving it to them , if you had a dog that was left to roam,put out at night to go commiting whatever damge ,you would expect a knock on the door ,........the fact that it was in someones wood sealed its fate, the only trouble is ,it got back homethe threat of the prosecution is "by the by", the assailent could quite easily deffend "his corner", dont forget , they are allways seeking something that gives them publicity, Hardly, you cant compare a dog to a cat, a dog you can control, you keep it indoors, or outdoors in the garden, a cat is a totally different pet in the way of controlling it. Id like to see you try and keep a cat in the garden without it escaping. Cats are free roamers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codling99 Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 what if it was a feral cat,quite a way from houses,you can legaly shoot feral cats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 what if it was a feral cat,quite a way from houses,you can legaly shoot feral cats "Feral cats are prolfic killers of nesting birds. If it can be shown that they have bred or are living in the wild then they may be humanely despatched." Although the news story says the owner found the cat meaning it was a domestic cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 On the theme of the rspca getting publicity/emotional blackmail have you seen the new ad on tv with simon cowel doing the commentary? He rambles on about all these terrible cases of dogs being used as ashtrays!and all manner of nasty things happening to animals..THEN..very quickly and quietly it says these arent real cases but if you send us money we can stop this sort of thing happening?? Stop what?? they just said they were made up cases,it is just emotional blackmail.No other organisation would get away with a stunt like that.I think it borders on obtaining money by deception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myuserid Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 On the theme of the rspca getting publicity/emotional blackmail have you seen the new ad on tv with simon cowel doing the commentary? He rambles on about all these terrible cases of dogs being used as ashtrays!and all manner of nasty things happening to animals..THEN..very quickly and quietly it says these arent real cases but if you send us money we can stop this sort of thing happening?? Stop what?? they just said they were made up cases,it is just emotional blackmail.No other organisation would get away with a stunt like that.I think it borders on obtaining money by deception. All charity's do the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 The guy who pulled the trigger is an idiot for not giving it the second barrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 I've mixed feelings on this one on one hand I have cats on the other I know what they can do on a shoot, I have to say I've been asked to shoot one before by a keeper if I saw it. I did see it and it was stalking a pheasant poult but I didn't shoot it, however I did throw the jack russel out of the truck and I think I cured the problem as a good chase seemed to put it off coming into the wood In this case the mistake was not killing it but as we all know it can happen. I have no doubt though it would have been shot deliberately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzyboi Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 lol, lets hope the next cat you shoot in the woods dont turn out to be your farmers wifes cat I would never shoot a domestic cat, i would never shoot a wild cat unless i seen it raping a pheasent. , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 just read this in the local rag. some idiot shot injured a cat, not with the usual air gun but with a shot gun. the story is here-http://tinyurl.com/27g22k But then again whats it doing in soeones wood? Thats not an excuse to pull the trigger on a cat! Cats roam about all the time, you cant tell them where not to go, iv seen a few cats in the woods down by where i shoot, they belong to the person next door to the farmhouse, only difference is i identify my quarry before pulling the trigger. an emotive subject, cats have the right to roam ,granted by, i think "king james" after the plauge, however , did you know a cat has no rights off your own property, once it has left the confines of your property ,it is not considerd "your cat",neither can someone approach you for compensation for any damage it may have done,.if it was stated "it was doing damage to game or wild birds" it may be disspatched in a "humane" manner,that is the law raymond1, Any info you can give me on that law would be greatly appreciated LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayward Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 http://www.richsalter.btinternet.co.uk/cks1/index.html i think shooting real cats is wrong btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1966 Posted October 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 the problem i can see with this is that it gives the anti's ammunition (excuse the pun) over the fire arms laws. we all know that air rifles have had bad press, in the same paper 5 days earlier was this story- http://tinyurl.com/2zmv8w 3 swans shot dead with an air rifle. i have a cat my self and also a dog, and i am sure that there are people on this forum who have had to shoot dogs that have been worrying sheep and i am sure it was a most unpleasant experience having to do so. there may be good reasons why the cat was shot, we will never know but the fact it has reached the local rag is bad news for us all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest raymond1 Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 gentlmen,......... the problem would appear to be this ,not so much as "another idiot on the loose", but his skills should have been honed a little more at the local clay club, the RSPCA openly addmits that cats dessimate the local songbird populations every spring, and what do they do ?,,,,,,,,,,, keep taking money from little old laddies and anyone else who is soft enough to keep giving it to them , if you had a dog that was left to roam,put out at night to go commiting whatever damge ,you would expect a knock on the door ,........the fact that it was in someones wood sealed its fate, the only trouble is ,it got back homethe threat of the prosecution is "by the by", the assailent could quite easily deffend "his corner", dont forget , they are allways seeking something that gives them publicity, Hardly, you cant compare a dog to a cat, a dog you can control, you keep it indoors, or outdoors in the garden, a cat is a totally different pet in the way of controlling it. Id like to see you try and keep a cat in the garden without it escaping. Cats are free roamers. people who keep cats to show or breed from , keep them in a palace , something akin to a ferret court , your correct in thinking that you cannot compare a cat to a dog and that they roam ,........ so they pay the price when caught ,dogs untill quite recently were licenced ,cats have never been licenced in the united kingdom, if your going to make these stupid irresponcible comparisons , does the owner of a yorkshire terrier let them loose all night ?because it is smaller than a cat !, get real cats are marauding , self sufficient annimals ,.....and i have no problems in helping them to another life when i see them in the fields or woods ,as i have allready stated ,the guy who done it should have finnished the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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