Rim Fire Posted March 26, 2023 Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 Hi all has anyone used a Thermal scope to develop a load for there rifle i reload for three of my rifles 17 Hornet 243 and 308 but all had day scopes on them before i went NV so i already knew what the load was on all three before putting NV on them . I have my renewal in and i put in for a 223 which i have been granted so this is a new caliber for me so starting fresh i was just wondering if its better to put a day scope on and work up a load then put my Thermal scope on ounce i have worked up a load thanks RF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 26, 2023 Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 I am using 223 for nv but digital not thermal. Presumably your thermal is on a rail so it will swap out very easily. I would switch ro a day scope for the load just for simplicity. That said the load I used was done from existing data and was tge first of three options so not hard to set up given the data out there. For me it's not like I am loading for range accuracy. It's night shooting off sticks. Mine is used 80 % less than 100m the rest out to 200 and on very rare occasions out to 400m at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted March 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 Hi oowee no its not a rail its fixed to Picatinny on the 17 Hornet i was wondering if its better to work up a load with better clarity in a day scope then ounce i find my load swap over i could use one of my Wraiths with a better clarity as its day and night mode then i still got NV if something comes up i have always used my Hornet for Foxing but i have recently been ask to shoot over fields that are very big 40acrs plus and others have tried to shoot the Foxes and now they are light shy hence the 223 and Thermal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 26, 2023 Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 51 minutes ago, Rim Fire said: Hi oowee no its not a rail its fixed to Picatinny on the 17 Hornet i was wondering if its better to work up a load with better clarity in a day scope then ounce i find my load swap over i could use one of my Wraiths with a better clarity as its day and night mode then i still got NV if something comes up i have always used my Hornet for Foxing but i have recently been ask to shoot over fields that are very big 40acrs plus and others have tried to shoot the Foxes and now they are light shy hence the 223 and Thermal Let's get historical. Learn to shoot using iron then optics are a doddle if you get my drift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted March 26, 2023 Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 Your developing loads for what we assume to be accuracy, if this is the case then there lies the answer. I have just done the very same thing with one of my foxing rifles, developed a load using glass then knowing i have the accuracy i want, then replaced the glass with a Pard DS35 digital and zeroed that. I added a picatinny rail, and mounts to both scopes so if i need to change back it shouldn't be too far off zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted March 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 45 minutes ago, wymberley said: Let's get historical. Learn to shoot using iron then optics are a doddle if you get my drift. At 69yrs of age i cant( see ) excuse the pun that happening 35 minutes ago, Dougy said: Your developing loads for what we assume to be accuracy, if this is the case then there lies the answer. I have just done the very same thing with one of my foxing rifles, developed a load using glass then knowing i have the accuracy i want, then replaced the glass with a Pard DS35 digital and zeroed that. I added a picatinny rail, and mounts to both scopes so if i need to change back it shouldn't be too far off zero. Yes Dougy that is what i need accuracy i think you are right use glass first then change over to Thermal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 26, 2023 Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 53 minutes ago, Rim Fire said: At 69yrs of age i cant( see ) excuse the pun that happening Yes Dougy that is what i need accuracy i think you are right use glass first then change over to Thermal Was adrift but have now obviously sunk. Glass is (was) the new iron and thermal the new optics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted March 26, 2023 Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Rim Fire said: At 69yrs of age i cant( see ) excuse the pun that happening Yes Dougy that is what i need accuracy i think you are right use glass first then change over to Thermal Don't forget..... Once you send it it ain't coming back. 100% positive ID. I know thermals improved but unless your spending 3k+ keep your shots below 200yds. Only my opinion of course. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEINVISIBLESCARECROW Posted March 26, 2023 Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 Glass first. Avoids frustration & or possible problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted March 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 2 hours ago, wymberley said: Was adrift but have now obviously sunk. Glass is (was) the new iron and thermal the new optics. now i catch your drift 🤣 1 hour ago, Dougy said: Don't forget..... Once you send it it ain't coming back. 100% positive ID. I know thermals improved but unless your spending 3k+ keep your shots below 200yds. Only my opinion of course. 👍 I have been shooting with Thermal for 7 yrs no problem identifying a target hopefully wont be shooting over 200 to 300 they wont spook with Thermal like with using NV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted March 26, 2023 Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, Rim Fire said: I have been shooting with Thermal for 7 yrs no problem identifying a target hopefully wont be shooting over 200 to 300 they wont spook with Thermal like with using NV I have looked at them and been tempted many times over the years but there's always feeling of trepidation if i used one and made a mistake on ID, i was out once tracking what we thought was a fox coming along a hedge using a Pulsar thermal spotter, it was one of the early ones Quatam xq 50. Mounted the rifle and it was the farm cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted March 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Dougy said: I have looked at them and been tempted many times over the years but there's always feeling of trepidation if i used one and made a mistake on ID, i was out once tracking what we thought was a fox coming along a hedge using a Pulsar thermal spotter, it was one of the early ones Quatam xq 50. Mounted the rifle and it was the farm cat. Quite easily done Dougy 👍 but thermal is a lot better now than it was i shoot with the Pulsar xq50 i love it my first Thermal scope was the ATN Mars they was 6k at the time i didn't pay that i payed 2k i now use it as a spotter and looking through the spotter and comparing to the Pulsar scope is miles apart if i could put videos up here i got some great footage of Fox and Boar being shot with thermal Edited March 26, 2023 by Rim Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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