landowner Posted May 14, 2023 Report Share Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) Fallow buck taken in the 2022/23 season. Scope: Pulsar Thermion 2 XP50 Rifle: Sako Tikka T3x Tac A1 ("the Tik Tac") - 6.5 Creedmoor - 24" barrel, 1 in 8" twist Mod: Wildcat Evo Ammo: Sako Gamehead Pro Tripod: Bog Deathgrip Spotter: Pulsar Axion 2 LRF XQ35 Edited May 14, 2023 by landowner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted May 14, 2023 Report Share Posted May 14, 2023 Deer with a Thermal really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landowner Posted May 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 You wouldn't have seen it looking down into the shadows of the treeline at the foot of that valley. Over 50 minutes after sunset. Believe me I'd tried glass many a day with that wiley ghost. Wouldn't have known he was there without a thermal spotter (Axion 2 LRF). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miki Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 17 hours ago, Weihrauch17 said: Deer with a Thermal really! Ilegal in Scotland .... I (personaly) see it as bad form anywhere to be honest. Stalking is all about using your fieldcraft/skill to get close... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 I thought it was a advert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landowner Posted May 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 4 hours ago, miki said: Ilegal in Scotland .... I (personaly) see it as bad form anywhere to be honest. Stalking is all about using your fieldcraft/skill to get close... I take your point, but night vision is legal for deer in most countries. This particular herd is practically nocturnal, you'd struggle to fulfil the DMP with glass. Wouldn't you consider using a thermal spotter outside Scotland? 2 hours ago, Bigbob said: I thought it was a advert Advert for my skillz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 What spotter you use? The quality on the scope is class 👍🏻 is your spotter as good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miki Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 1 hour ago, landowner said: I take your point, but night vision is legal for deer in most countries. <snip> Wouldn't you consider using a thermal spotter outside Scotland? Thermal spotters are OK, but any use of thermal or IR/digital scopes is illegal in Scotland (on deer) even in the daytime.https://www.thestalkingdirectory.co.uk/threads/night-vision-and-law.232182/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 Well done i use the XQ 50 good scopes the argument for using Thermal to stalk deer is the same for using thermal to shoot anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Rim Fire said: Well done i use the XQ 50 good scopes the argument for using Thermal to stalk deer is the same for using thermal to shoot anything Not at all because you can use Thermal to shoot Deer outside of the legal limits of daylight which don't apply to Foxes or Rabbits, one hour before sunrise and one hour after sunset. If you can't shoot Deer with a quality day scope but do with a Thermal then you are most likely outside of the legal limits. Edited May 16, 2023 by Weihrauch17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Weihrauch17 said: Not at all because you can use Thermal to shoot Deer outside of the legal limits of daylight which don't apply to Foxes or Rabbits, one hour before sunrise and one hour after sunset. If you can't shoot Deer with a quality day scope but do with a Thermal then you are most likely outside of the legal limits. Not at all you are correct about the times of shooting Deer. But no different to shooting with a Day Night scope when the time has come and gone you can use the Ir to carry on shooting same as Thermal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landowner Posted May 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2023 On 16/05/2023 at 12:55, Weihrauch17 said: Not at all because you can use Thermal to shoot Deer outside of the legal limits of daylight which don't apply to Foxes or Rabbits, one hour before sunrise and one hour after sunset. If you can't shoot Deer with a quality day scope but do with a Thermal then you are most likely outside of the legal limits. Worth noting that there are provisions in the legislation for night shooting deer in England and Wales. For example, I had a night shooting licence from Natural England for two areas in the last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landowner Posted May 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) On 15/05/2023 at 23:51, Lloyd90 said: What spotter you use? The quality on the scope is class 👍🏻 is your spotter as good? Axion 2 LRF XQ35 spotter, it's good, but image quality is more comparable with the XQ50 than the XP50 (used in the buck video) tbf: Edited May 17, 2023 by landowner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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