Calamity Jane Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 This Lead thing................... I don't do this lead thing. If someone says give it more lead, I go extreme and shoot miles in front. Once I start to analyse, look at the angle, told to shoot above it, in front of it, to the right or left of it. I MISS THE DAM THING. If I however rely on my swing and give it more for fast/far out crosses it all OK - well sometimes. Women apparently find it hard to work out lead especially in sporting because of the variety of angles, not so with Trap because a set sequence etc. I am interested in other views......... Calamity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 You smoke trail dear. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 FC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Women apparently find it hard to work out lead thats because all there adult lives they have been told that 4 inches is 8. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Jane Posted November 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 'This LEAD thing...' Lead is by far the best material to use in shotshells! Much better than steel. :blink: You hit the clays by shooting 'where they are going - not where they have been' It's all about vectors, swing, shot string and experience! Just havin' a loff! Yes someone else said that Lead is better than Steel, however I once shot some claybusters on Double Rise and I am convinced they had fairy dust as a complete waste of time! What is a Vector - or am I having a pink moment :unsure: CJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Jane Posted November 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Women apparently find it hard to work out lead thats because all there adult lives they have been told that 4 inches is 8. :unsure: :blink: I WAS SO WAITING FOR THAT COMMENT ISN'T IT THEN? CJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayward Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 I often shoot with my other 1/2 most of the time she shoots sporting better than me !! did i just say that !!! wth Any way i often ask where she placed the shot !! she has no idea !! clueless she could not possibly tell me if i was to pay her ,,, so in my opinion a man telling a lady where to shoot and what lead is is totally pointless not being sexist in the slightest but come on !!! However this months nov /dec BASC magazine says a clay @ 20 yards 3 feet , 5-6 feet @ 30 yards and 8-10 feet @ 40yards on a true crossing bird good luck its trial and error on the whole lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Jane Posted November 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 I often shoot with my other 1/2 most of the time she shoots sporting better than me !! did i just say that !!! wth Any way i often ask where she placed the shot !! she has no idea !! clueless she could not possibly tell me if i was to pay her ,,, so in my opinion a man telling a lady where to shoot and what lead is is totally pointless not being sexist in the slightest but come on !!! good luck its trial and error on the whole lol Good I am glad its not just me then....If I am asked how much lead .... I just look vague (more than normal, you know that pink look)..... and just say well a bit I suppose! However this months nov /dec BASC magazine says a clay @ 20 yards 3 feet 5-6 feet @ 30 and 8-10 @ 40yards on a true crossing bird This sounds like my worst nightmare, I think if someone said to shot a target with these stats, I think I would look at them very vague and start to file my nails or something..... Please don't apologise for being sexist, men cannot help it - oppss sorry was that sexist! Men cannot multitask - opps another one, sorry ....... :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 I have helped Calam over the last few years. The only way I can get her to hit them is by smoke trailing. I explained 1. My space invader way of lead. 2. Clay in the middle of the clock face. 3. Paint a line under it. 4. Shoot its legs off. 5. Left leg right leg beak up its bum. 6. Now its see it, shoot it, and swing, work harder, want it. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Jane Posted November 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 I have helped Calam over the last few years. The only way I can get her to hit them is by smoke trailing. I explained 1. My space invader way of lead. 2. Clay in the middle of the clock face. 3. Paint a line under it. 4. Shoot its legs off. 5. Left leg right leg beak up its bum. 6. Now its see it, shoot it, and swing, work harder, want it. Tony Its true and he speaks my language! - has been a great help to me and also a fantastic coach! Now about that shopping trip ........... Seriously he is a fantastic coach and is a great advocate to help other girlies in the shooting world. CJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 FC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy W Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 I find it difficult to estimate distance for crossers, I am ok on a skeet range as it is fixed distance but sporting .............. I miss a lot of crossers still, I have tried the on the front edge of clay, pull trigger as swinging through, I have tried spot shooting a pre determined amount in front of the clay and I have tried bum, belly, beak, bang. I would like to try some tracer cartridges so I can see for myself exactly where I am going as you get all sorts of feedback from your shooting mates, missed behind, over the top seems to be the 2 most commonm my mate said last week I am thinking and analyzing a clay too long before shooting it, I dont have a problem shooting crossing rabbit though so I must be shooting over the top more than I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 My problem (Among Many others) is that I tend to chase the Clay, and then stop the swing of the barrells..... I have to realy concerntrate to push the barrells pass the clay before firing.. It just feels unnatural not to shoot at the clay....But im getting there. Another of my probs is that the more time i have on the clay the more i try to measure....and miss Quick birds i just flash pass them and fire without thinking about it, but those slow birds..AAHHHHHH But at least i know what im doing so i can correct it, with plenty of practise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 A very complicated topic and one I do know something about as a mate and I discovered a few years back...everyone sees lead differently, some see it in inches, some in feet and some in yards or mm, cms, m for those born more recently. There's also the complication that some see lead from the end of the barrels and some from the target. The correct way (if it can be called correct 'cause there're plenty who will say differently) is to see lead from the target BUT if you see it differently and can hit things then so what! There's a very good article on the subject in this months BASC mag but I bet if I tried using that formula I'd miss more than I hit. IMO it's best you learn where and why you missed a target then you can correct yourself. I would say that the most common problem with poor shots is their inability (or denial) to know where they are missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 FC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Calamity Jane Posted November 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 Very good I will try to add a verse tomorrow - need my beauty sleep! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 FC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradleyB Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 Women apparently find it hard to work out lead especially in sporting because of the variety of angles, not so with Trap because a set sequence etc. I am interested in other views......... Calamity[/color] Women find it harder? Is this just not an excuse. Practise makes perfect. Charlotte Kerwood doesn't have issues with lead because she is a woman! She just works it out for herself. Women always tell us how good they are at driving. So their perception should be better than men's. So you should be able to work out lead much better than us boys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronan nee Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 Women apparently find it hard to work out lead thats because all there adult lives they have been told that 4 inches is 8. :unsure: :unsure: good man regards ronan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Jane Posted November 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 Women apparently find it hard to work out lead especially in sporting because of the variety of angles, not so with Trap because a set sequence etc. I am interested in other views......... Calamity[/color] Women find it harder? Is this just not an excuse. Practise makes perfect. Charlotte Kerwood doesn't have issues with lead because she is a woman! She just works it out for herself. Women always tell us how good they are at driving. So their perception should be better than men's. So you should be able to work out lead much better than us boys! I do obviously do lead but not to the point that I consious with it and if I start to think (dangerous ). I go extreme and shoot miles in front. I use my swing and just swing a bit harder if it needs lead as mentioned before etc. I am a **** driver as well :unsure: :unsure: - only joking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddles Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Women apparently find it hard to work out lead especially in sporting because of the variety of angles, not so with Trap because a set sequence etc. I am interested in other views......... Calamity[/color] Women find it harder? Is this just not an excuse. Practise makes perfect. Charlotte Kerwood doesn't have issues with lead because she is a woman! She just works it out for herself. Women always tell us how good they are at driving. So their perception should be better than men's. So you should be able to work out lead much better than us boys! I do obviously do lead but not to the point that I consious with it and if I start to think (dangerous :unsure: ). I go extreme and shoot miles in front. I use my swing and just swing a bit harder if it needs lead as mentioned before etc. I am a **** driver as well :unsure: - only joking! Don't you ever worry for your safety when in the company of people with guns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmsy Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 its all about trigonometry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 its all about trigonometry Yes, I find this little sum is helpful when faced with a long crosser : Innit :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 its all about trigonometry Yes, I find this little sum is helpful when faced with a long crosser : Innit :lol: Love it :lol: That would do her up like a kipper on the stand with her calculator. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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