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Evening all,

I am a very amateur gardener, successful enough at growing plants from seed and the greenhouse is going well but I have no experience with roses.

A local farmer where I shoot and keep a few hives has some old (and pretty wild) roses. They are in the hedges and also in the very overgrown garden. This man is in his late 70's and the roses in the garden were planted by his mother, I am not sure of the ones in the hedges as I have seen more locally in roadside hedges in recent weeks.

I would love to take cuttings from these plants and have the farmers full permission to do so but I am at a loss of where to start. Do I cut the new growth and plant into pots with rooting powder or do I leave them in water to hopefully produce a root? Or is there something else that I am totally unaware of?

All advice gratefully received. 

Thanks.

Gavin.

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7 minutes ago, gmm243 said:

Evening all,

I am a very amateur gardener, successful enough at growing plants from seed and the greenhouse is going well but I have no experience with roses.

A local farmer where I shoot and keep a few hives has some old (and pretty wild) roses. They are in the hedges and also in the very overgrown garden. This man is in his late 70's and the roses in the garden were planted by his mother, I am not sure of the ones in the hedges as I have seen more locally in roadside hedges in recent weeks.

I would love to take cuttings from these plants and have the farmers full permission to do so but I am at a loss of where to start. Do I cut the new growth and plant into pots with rooting powder or do I leave them in water to hopefully produce a root? Or is there something else that I am totally unaware of?

All advice gratefully received. 

Thanks.

Gavin.

JDog will be along shortly to give you expert advice.

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Take a cutting a foot long straight at one end pointed at the other so you know what is the top and what's the bottom make a trench with a spade plant them about 8 inches deep firm in and forget about them for a year 

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Roses.l. we have a rose bed in which there're roses that are over 50 ÷ years old. some about 30 years and a few which are couple of years. I can  honestly say that when they are well they look great and smell great. Some years aren't so good. We've been to a lot of gardens  that I haven't enjoyed because the roses are just pastel and don't have much if any scent. In Winston Churchills garden at Chartwell the roses are very pastel and the roses are changed out about every 3 years. The most disappointing was Kew gardens.  The rose beds there were a mess.  All of the roses needed a serious dead heading and virtually every rose was covered in blackspot. Roses need space, plenty of water, loads of feed and a constant  watch for blackspot which needs to be sprayed for and ALL diseased leaves removed and burnt or binned away as sun as it appears. 

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Don't forget to fertilize when they get going. As a child, we used to put all the dog poo behind and around the rose bushes,,,, all I remember is that the flowers were huge and very scented 😁 😃

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Thank you all for the replies.

I have an used raised bed that is well fertilised so I took a few more cuttings and have planted half in there with a bit of rooting compound on them and the others I have left in water to see if they will root in that.

Seems to be a difficult plant to get to root but hopefully some will come good.

I also took some Buddlia cuttings which I have planted in a large pot so it will be interesting to see if they take too.

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23 minutes ago, gmm243 said:

Thank you all for the replies.

I have an used raised bed that is well fertilised so I took a few more cuttings and have planted half in there with a bit of rooting compound on them and the others I have left in water to see if they will root in that.

Seems to be a difficult plant to get to root but hopefully some will come good.

I also took some Buddlia cuttings which I have planted in a large pot so it will be interesting to see if they take too.

Buddila is a pain to me i have one in a large pot and it grows fine flowers but never loads and then you see it growing on buildings and waste ground flowering its heart out , so i decided to get tougher this year no feeding and less watering to see what happens 

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1 hour ago, Bigbob said:

Buddila is a pain to me i have one in a large pot and it grows fine flowers but never loads and then you see it growing on buildings and waste ground flowering its heart out , so i decided to get tougher this year no feeding and less watering to see what happens 

The buddlia I took the cuttings from was in a bit if waste ground at my office. Never looked at, cut ti pieces when the men get at it once a year then it comes back better then ever. Maybe tough love is the way forward. 

I had one at my last house which grew very large and I  cut that back very year. I keep bees and remember loads of butterflies on the Buddloa but can't recall any bees on it. Hopefully ring will tell.

I have a catnip in my garden which has got very large, it is covered with bumble bees but the honey bees do not go to it  at all.

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