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Once again, no !!! That was last week 🙄😆😂

No,,,, she's got the weekend off,,,, it's Debbie this week 💃🤣

It's only an opinion deary 😘😆 Anyway,,,, there's only one GRAVY POLICEPERSON on here,,,, our Billy from bonny Scotland 🤦😂

Have you not seen the adverts for the new upcoming programme on the tellybox ? It's on channel XYZ and called "GRAVY WARS !" 🥳😁😂

Also agreed, but,,,, don't want to be served gravy with a knife 🤦😆

I distinctly remember the coal man doing his house deliveries in his small flatbed truck, probably a Bedford ? The smell of coal dust is a long gone memory. The dustmen used to empty 'our' bin along with neighbour's bins into their own large metal bins,,,, up on the shoulder and tip contents into the back of the refuse lorry. Rag and bone man,,,, horse and cart,,,, ringing his bell,,,, could hear him from streets away 😆 Away from home,,,, Billy Smart's Circus at our 'local' Blackheath Common once a year. Think we only went once,,,, into the HUGE tent,,,, weird smells,,,, clowns on bikes,,,, elephants doing tricks into the isles between the seats, very close to me and my sister,,,, wooaahh !!! 😲😆😂

You can't beat a crispy skin on roast chicken 😋 Roast in the bag chicken used to be convenient for me,,,, never again because of all the 'fluid' once cooked 😧 Also, IMO, gravy must be made using some part of the main meal,,,, meat juices or veg water etc 👍 plus other 'seasoning' to suit 😁

Thanks for the lengthy reply Conor, much appreciated. I honestly think that a specific figure is what is needed for shooters and antis alike, but that can never be achieved, obviously. So us shooters err on the low estimates and the others err towards the higher estimates,,,, hence confusion and arguments. Like you say, it's about trust in the research 😏 I personally don't have a gripe with anyone, least of all any shooting orgs, as things change through time with most things,,,, especially contaminants. This time it's lead shot [inland]. The confusion starts when there's no 'black and white' instantly obvious solution. Plus, so many Q's !!! 🙂 I hope that makes sense ?

Exactly ! I'm as confused as the next bloke/woman/it 🤔 But I'm NOT going to keep on,,,,,,,,,,,,, 😉

Smoke and mirrors springs to mind. Along those lines, I'm guessing that no-one really knows ? 🤷‍♂️🙃Estimates and guesswork can come up with some wonderful figures 🫣

It may surprise you that I, among others I suspect, would also like to see this "conclusive evidence". I can't figure out how any exact statistic can be reached for this. I haven't seen the countryside crawling with bods searching for dead birds to take back to the labs for investigation into ingesting lead shot as grit 🤔 I'm not taking sides here, just curious 🤷😉

BASC didn't volunteer to give up lead, get your facts right. And what's all this "big boy" stuff ? Just because you have over 18k posts doesn't make you a 'voice for shooting'. Just like Konor has appointed himself as "the voice of shooters", all this whinging and demanding answers to questions on here isn't going to achieve anything apart from personal gratification. You keep on being the 'Minder' to those pushing for answers, as you seem to do this on all threads that include anything to do with BASC,,,, have a nice day 🙋

I rest my case m'lud ! You seem to be on a personal crusade, making it appear that it's all about YOU and YOUR shooting etc. I will keep my opinions on the subject private, thanks very much, until there IS an actual BAN. At the moment, it's voluntary, as you keep mentioning,,,, so you keep on griping about not getting what YOU want, and I will keep on reading the same old repetitive posts, day after day after day after,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 🤦🙋

You sure do like the sound of your own voice fella !!! Give it a rest ! 😣

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