Conor O'Gorman Posted July 20 Report Share Posted July 20 The Gun Trade Association (GTA) has challenged a decision by the Metropolitan Police regarding firearms licensing procedures. The issue arose when the Met attempted to issue a new form requiring medical checks for all employees of registered firearms dealers (RFDs), a move deemed unlawful by the Home Office. The Home Office made it clear to the Met that new standards and processes could not be established without following the proper procedures. https://www.shootinguk.co.uk/news/gta-challenges-mets-unlawful-licence-form-148733/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted July 20 Report Share Posted July 20 Cannot help but wonder why the GTA with it's fairly limited membership are fighting this matter yet BASC are not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted July 20 Report Share Posted July 20 2 minutes ago, bruno22rf said: Cannot help but wonder why the GTA with it's fairly limited membership are fighting this matter yet BASC are not? The GTA’s mission is to promote and protect the UK gun trade and it carries out this remit at all levels, from representation at Government to day-to-day queries with Firearms Licensing Officers and local authorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor O'Gorman Posted July 21 Author Report Share Posted July 21 23 hours ago, bruno22rf said: Cannot help but wonder why the GTA with it's fairly limited membership are fighting this matter yet BASC are not? RFDs that are trade members of GTA reported the issue to GTA and the GTA acted on that and the issue has been resolved. Good work by GTA. Are you a member of BASC or GTA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 10 hours ago, Conor O'Gorman said: RFDs that are trade members of GTA reported the issue to GTA and the GTA acted on that and the issue has been resolved. Good work by GTA. Are you a member of BASC or GTA? Nope, not a gun dealer (dont sell guns) nor a BASC member (as they left me high and dry many years ago when I was falsely accused of violent behaviour) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 Whilst I applaud the GTA and their action, the Met's action (which I disagree with on the grounds that they have overstepped the mark) has an element of sense in it. To hold one shotgun, we have to have a licence, backed up by medical evidence. I am not familiar with an RFD licence - as to whether the RFD has to supply medical evidence. However, RFD employees have access to multiple shotguns and rifles, with the associated ammunition. Why should they be considered less of a risk than an ordinary licence holder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fil Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 1 hour ago, Gordon R said: Whilst I applaud the GTA and their action, the Met's action (which I disagree with on the grounds that they have overstepped the mark) has an element of sense in it. To hold one shotgun, we have to have a licence, backed up by medical evidence. I am not familiar with an RFD licence - as to whether the RFD has to supply medical evidence. However, RFD employees have access to multiple shotguns and rifles, with the associated ammunition. Why should they be considered less of a risk than an ordinary licence holder? Rfd certificate holders go through the exact same procedures as section 1 and 2 certificate holders including submitting the GP form. We also have to prove the need for an RFD certificate. (Use it or lose it) And it costs more and only lasts 3 years. As for employees or "servants of the RFD" the police do the same background check as they would the holder of the RFD but no gp form is carried out. A great proportion of employees are usually certificate holders themselves so would have had a GP medical background check done. 99% of the gun shop owners and their employees I know all shoot anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 Fil - thanks for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor O'Gorman Posted July 22 Author Report Share Posted July 22 14 hours ago, bruno22rf said: Nope, not a gun dealer (dont sell guns) nor a BASC member (as they left me high and dry many years ago when I was falsely accused of violent behaviour) Sorry to hear that, would you like me to look into it for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 14 minutes ago, Conor O'Gorman said: Sorry to hear that, would you like me to look into it for you? No thanks, it was over 20 years ago from memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor O'Gorman Posted July 23 Author Report Share Posted July 23 12 hours ago, bruno22rf said: No thanks, it was over 20 years ago from memory. Perhaps now is the time to re-join - strength in numbers as you alluded to earlier. Are you already a member of a shooting organisation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted July 23 Report Share Posted July 23 6 hours ago, Conor O'Gorman said: Perhaps now is the time to re-join - strength in numbers as you alluded to earlier. Are you already a member of a shooting organisation? Not if you paid me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor O'Gorman Posted July 23 Author Report Share Posted July 23 4 hours ago, bruno22rf said: Not if you paid me. Fair enough, but if you have no interest in BASC, why be critical of BASC in this thread which is about some good work by GTA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 11 hours ago, Conor O'Gorman said: Fair enough, but if you have no interest in BASC, why be critical of BASC in this thread which is about some good work by GTA? I have no interest in the Nazi Party but I will exercise my right to be critical of their actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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