What to do with a misfired round?

[TIGHTCHOKE]

6 minutes ago, enfieldspares said:

Work.

In the days before the HK MP5 started replacing for most uses (that up to then) the cheaper to buy Remington 870 loaded with solid slug had been chosen.

For what purpose?

[Scully]

Just chuck it in a river. 

[enfieldspares]

3 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

For what purpose?

For those distances considered too far to use a pistol. So fifty yards out to one hundred yards. 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

1 minute ago, Scully said:

Just chuck it in a river. 

And cause a lot of grief when it is dredged up?

Just now, enfieldspares said:

For those distances considered too far to use a pistol. So fifty yards out to one hundred yards. 

Who was he with?

[enfieldspares]

6 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Who was he with?

The tools available at the time were pistols, the Remington 870 and for the those in an "overwatch" 'scoped bolt action rifles.

So the Remington 870 was the thing carried for use at intermediate distances by those who otherwise would have had only pistols as a 'scoped bolt action rifle wasn't either portable enough and would encumber quick exit from a vehicle (even if it could have actually fitted in the vehicle) and for the targets likely to be needed to be engaged and any benefit of greater range and greater precision a very poor trade-off against its lack of rapid fire against possible multiple targets at those fifty to one hundred yard distances.

I think, with that, I'll end the conversation here. 

Edited 12 hours ago by enfieldspares

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Oh.

[BobbyH]

1 hour ago, JKD said:

Exactly,,,, if that figure was say 5-10% then yes, let them know, but a handful out of thousands ? So if it was a persistent problem, then yes, let 'them' know.

Also, is this not covered in the 'safety training' prior to taking the CPSA Level 1 course ? 🤔

The safety officer training teaches you to identify a misfire or incorrect muzzle report. And then how to deal with it.

It’s taught as I said earlier, to return the offending cartridge to the supplier. But my question was, does anyone actually do it, which has now been answered.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

9 minutes ago, enfieldspares said:

The tools available at the time were pistols, the Remington 870 and for the those in an "overwatch" 'scoped bolt action rifles.

So the Remington 870 was the thing carried for use at intermediate distances by those who otherwise would have had only pistols.

I think, with that, I'll end the conversation here. 

We only used slugs through Remi 870's for door locks and hinges.

[JKD]

2 minutes ago, BobbyH said:

The safety officer training teaches you to identify a misfire or incorrect muzzle report. And then how to deal with it.

It’s taught as I said earlier, to return the offending cartridge to the supplier. But my question was, does anyone actually do it, which has now been answered.

But,,,, your original question was ? 🤷‍♂️

[BobbyH]

Just now, JKD said:

But,,,, your original question was ? 🤷‍♂️

I’ll be honest and not try and blag it, I forgot that you could take them back to the supplier untill an answer on here refreshed it for me. 

[JKD]

1 minute ago, BobbyH said:

I’ll be honest and not try and blag it, I forgot that you could take them back to the supplier untill an answer on here refreshed it for me. 

Oh ok. Do you do much instructing ?

[BobbyH]

5 minutes ago, JKD said:

Oh ok. Do you do much instructing ?

I don’t sadly, it’s only been a couple months since I qualified, and I haven’t the foggiest where to start advertising and how to build clients.

[JKD]

5 minutes ago, BobbyH said:

I don’t sadly, it’s only been a couple months since I qualified, and I haven’t the foggiest where to start advertising and how to build clients.

Oh right. You seem to have 'taken up' a few new 'hobbies/pastimes' recently ?

[BobbyH]

Just now, JKD said:

Oh right. You seem to have 'taken up' a few new 'hobbies/pastimes' recently ?

Yeah, that’s true, not that I need to explain, but at the start of last year I had a pretty scary heart issue, found out I have Atrial fibrillation at the whopping age of only 35. So after a year of tests and having the procedure done, I thought life’s too short and am now getting into and doing everything I wanted to but not being able to as a kid. 
Hence the RC airplanes, and also wanting to teach clay target shooting into an ever decreasing sport, and probably anything else that comes along..

[JKD]

1 minute ago, BobbyH said:

Yeah, that’s true, not that I need to explain, but at the start of last year I had a pretty scary heart issue, found out I have Atrial fibrillation at the whopping age of only 35. So after a year of tests and having the procedure done, I thought life’s too short and am now getting into and doing everything I wanted to but not being able to as a kid. 
Hence the RC airplanes, and also wanting to teach clay target shooting into an ever decreasing sport, and probably anything else that comes along..

Thanks for the explanation, appreciated. Perhaps you need to concentrate on one thing at a time and just dabble in some other things ?

[TIGHTCHOKE]

4 minutes ago, BobbyH said:

Yeah, that’s true, not that I need to explain, but at the start of last year I had a pretty scary heart issue, found out I have Atrial fibrillation at the whopping age of only 35. So after a year of tests and having the procedure done, I thought life’s too short and am now getting into and doing everything I wanted to but not being able to as a kid. 
Hence the RC airplanes, and also wanting to teach clay target shooting into an ever decreasing sport, and probably anything else that comes along..

Good on you, pace yourself and get out there.

[BobbyH]

Just now, JKD said:

Thanks for the explanation, appreciated. Perhaps you need to concentrate on one thing at a time and just dabble in some other things ?

That’s what I am now doing, I’m concentrating on my clay shooting, on the DTL comps, and only doing the side stuff when I get spare time. 

[JKD]

Just now, BobbyH said:

That’s what I am now doing, I’m concentrating on my clay shooting, on the DTL comps, and only doing the side stuff when I get spare time. 

👍

[BobbyH]

Just now, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Good on you, pace yourself and get out there.

Thankyou buddy, appreciate that!

[Scully]

49 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

And cause a lot of grief when it is dredged up?

 

Seriously? 
Firstly, no rivers are dredged. Secondly, even if they were, I’m struggling to think who or how grief could be caused to anyone. 
Thirdly, no rivers are dredged. 
Whenever we made distorted rounds as hand loaders, we would pull the round and if the case and primer were still intact reload it. If we didn’t have a bullet puller or the round was too deformed to pull we’d simply throw the round into the deep part of a local river. 
Some of the lads would pile em up, pour fuel on and light them. I’ve heard and experienced more impressive farts  than a heated load. 

Two pages on what to do with a dud load! 🤷‍♂️

[TIGHTCHOKE]

27 minutes ago, Scully said:

Seriously? 
Firstly, no rivers are dredged. Secondly, even if they were, I’m struggling to think who or how grief could be caused to anyone. 
Thirdly, no rivers are dredged. 
Whenever we made distorted rounds as hand loaders, we would pull the round and if the case and primer were still intact reload it. If we didn’t have a bullet puller or the round was too deformed to pull we’d simply throw the round into the deep part of a local river. 
Some of the lads would pile em up, pour fuel on and light them. I’ve heard and experienced more impressive farts  than a heated load. 

Two pages on what to do with a dud load! 🤷‍♂️

They are in Stamford, they found quite a lot of interesting stuff every time they do it.

Work out how I know...................................

[Scully]

5 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

They are in Stamford, they found quite a lot of interesting stuff every time they do it.

Work out how I know...................................

And who was caused ‘grief’ by dredging up ammunition? 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

The Police are called every time.

They call joint EOD tasking and we would have to go and collect it all.

[Scully]

6 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

The Police are called every time.

They call joint EOD tasking and we would have to go and collect it all.

Obviously not thrown into the right part of the river ! 
Where and when was this? Any links? 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Just now, Scully said:

Obviously not thrown into the right part of the river ! 
Where and when was this? Any links? 

Every time the River Welland is dredged they find stuff a couple of hundred yards downstream from the bridge, we had one of these a few years ago.