kdubya Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 yes I know its been asked before and how long is a piece of string comes to mind?BUT as my rifle probably needs a service (bought second hand) and seems to be not hitting as hard as it did (again may be me) I fancy something new? here is the criteria A) accurate and reliable :blink: whisper quiet C) fillable via a stirrup pump D) servicable and power adjustable should I decide to go for a ticket! E) have sling swivels or be capable of taking them. now just about all I will use it for is bunny bashing and the odd daft crow that gets too close, reading magazines just does my head in!!! seems they are all "the best" could be interested in something synthetic that is knockable now I have a decent scope silencer etc but am not adverse to a trade in for a "good" combo anyone heard of an excalibre synthetic? cheers Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOLTA Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 Hi, I have two choices for you, either Daystate Mk3 or Daystate Harrier X2. Try a search for information and reviews on these two. Both will fulfil your requirements - or as close as you can get. Cheers - Bolta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 How much you looking to spend mate?... If it is a sizeable amount Theoben Rapid range. Nothing comes close! FM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 Dont trust the airgun press, its all bullsh*t. They are too scared to print anything bad, and face the consequence of loosing an advertiser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOLTA Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 How much you looking to spend mate?... If it is a sizeable amount Theoben Rapid range. Nothing comes close! FM. Hi, Are Theoben airguns also as quite as the two Daystates airguns ? I think not !!!! Mk3 and Harrier X2 has an "internal" silencer build in and takes another to almost completely remove the sound report. Plus Harrier X2 can be delivered with a synthetic stock if you like. Cheers - Bolta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted June 15, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 cheers, been looking at some reviews of the daystate harrier (pre mk2) seems its either love or hate, however plus points are I have a logun silencer with 1/2 unf fitting so that will go straight on, seems it is considered whisper quiet? but so is my present gun and the rabbits run like hell when they hear the "whisper" oh and the "new" synthetic sports meets my needs? bad point it aint available till end of july! so what do I do? get some wood or wait for some plastic? looking at things the harrier 2 seems to be the one I am looking at? anyone dealt with Uttings? I would have to send for this (no one local) er I think, they are quite a bit cheaper than blackpool airguns who I have dealt with before? cheers Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 Are Theoben airguns also as quite as the two Daystates airguns ? I think not !!!! I admit the Daystate guns are very good. I had a Harrier X with built in sound moderator but still had to fit a airstream silencer to make it quieter. :blink: Even then there was nothing between that and the rapid 7 and vortex which I still have. The two were as accurate as each other but I always test my airguns over a full range of shots and the Theoben was more consistant. Also I had some problems with the valving on the Daystate. The big plus with the Rapid is the large air reservoir which when and if the gun is adapted to FAC use will still give you a sizeable volume of shots. This is something which the Daystate guns do not provide. I deal with uttings in Norwich regularly and their service is first class this also applies to the after sales service of Theoben. When I had problems with the Daystate it was sorted but I had to go through my Dealer and it took for ever. You pays your money and takes your choice mate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyblanco Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 save some money and get an air arms s410, does all the above and is cheaper. if you are sure about going fac then a rapid is the best option :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted June 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 well thanks for the replies, and advice I considered the rapid? would have been ok I even have a brand new silencer that would fit it (anyone want to buy it its a logun) but on balance of cost, reviews I have read, the fact I have a logun 1/2 unf fitting silencer and a scope complete with high mounts (will clear magazine) I have today purchased a harrier mk2 uttings say it will bedelivered tommorrow so if I get it set up it should be bunny bashing tommorow evening? cheers Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak47 Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Uttings.com are great i bort a bsa spitfire from then a few weeks ago but the ddint have thecarbine version in stock so they gave me a normal version with a free silincer wicked eh! the gun came the next day an i did had a bit of throuble with the pump (due to me being a dumb *** with things like this)and i asked them about 10-20 questions and they replyied to everyone within like half hour....Great stuff il definatly be buying from there again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted June 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 10 out of 10 to uttings will use them again, gun arrived this afternoon while I was at work! and they phoned me to tell me the house number at which it had been left? cant fault them ordered yesterday afternoon here today 30 mins to set up and to figure out how the hell the 10 shot magazine worked? bloody fiddle to load!! then off for some bunnies, result = 1 hour lamping it had to pelt down!! 6 rabbits cleanly killed. 1 that was hit hard on the head but still managed to run back to the warrens all in all very pleased with the gun nice to handle and the 10 shot magazine is a cracking idea while lamping? although a fiddle to load and the pellets need to be "poked" into situ, but thats really nitpicking. cheers Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verminator Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 Depends how much u want to fork out...bearing in mind you want a good set of optics onboard. S410 are good, very quiet and fitted with a beech tock they are fairly hardy. AA are a good brand. Im not too keen on the BSA..but if you like it then why not...basically there is really no difference between accuracy of pcps around the £300--£500 mark. I used to have a Falcon in .22 with a logun silencer and a white tale classic 3.5 - 10 x 50. It was only the single shot version, but it was quiet and accurate..sub .5 inch at 30 yds. I recon the multi shot would have been formidable..even more so. Daysates...now there a league of there own...super quiet...quieter than a rapid mk 2 with vortex silencer...and before anyone says anymore i own both...a daystate mk 3 with logun silencer..and a rapid mk 2 in .20...was at 12 ftlb...now 23 ftlbs. What ever u choose...remember its the clot behind the trigger. Hope that helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooky Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 I have to agree with fisherman mike rapid range are the best im getting a new MFR very soon :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted June 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 well I will take your words re theoben! never had one so really cant comment, been "playing" in the garden today with the harrier2 and believe me if theoben are better than this thing then they must be bloody good ? cos this thing is marvelous? so consistent to shoot and by that I mean actually shooting from an upright (stood in a field) position, I am really pleased with it, only draw back is the magazine loading fiddle factor,and as I thought a couple of prefilled magazines ready in my pocket might be a good idea? I phoned uttings for availability and price!! oh yes they are available however the price is FORTY quid each nearly fell over! cheers Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooky Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 Daystate,falcon,airarms were all built around a ft gun where as the theoben rapid range was built as an out and out hunter that will out perform most guns on the market unless your talking £££ Ripley :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOLTA Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 Hi kdubya, Congratulation with your new gun. Yes, the Daystate´s range of airguns are very good and it is also excellent that you like the Harrier so much. Actually, I were pretty sure that you will like the gun even before you have bought it and you are certainly not the only one in this aspect. Sorry to hear about the magazine problem though - but you are probably right about keeping a few extra loaded magazines in your pocket will take you past this problem. One good advice to you all that are looking for a new pcp airgun. Most of these guns are excellent, also the Theoben Rapid range no doubt about that, but before choosing take a hard look at Daystate´s range of guns too - they may be more expensive or having a higher reputation than the other makers, but I can tell you and so can kdubya also that these airguns are worth the extra money and the prestige. Plus they also have an excellent service too if you ever need something fixed. Cheers - Bolta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTaylor2k4 Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 What ever u choose...remember its the clot behind the trigger. So True m8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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