Vegeta Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Hi all, As some of you know my dog was killed earlier in the week, I have been keeping my ear to the ground for a future working dog and got a phone call today from a friend of a hunting buddy. It turns out his dad has 2 english setters that he has not had the time to put into the dogs that he wished (he banged up his knee during the year) I have no clue what sort of tempermant or ability they have but they come from good breeding and are very well cared for. I may be going to see them tonight. As I said they are 12 months old, would I be able to make them into a decent working dog over the course of the next year or is it too late. What should I look out for in them to see if they have potential? The dog will be mainly used for pheasant I am very green to dog training as my brother has trained all our previous dogs so apologies for my lack of knowledge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeksofdoom Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Hi all, As some of you know my dog was killed earlier in the week, I have been keeping my ear to the ground for a future working dog and got a phone call today from a friend of a hunting buddy. It turns out his dad has 2 english setters that he has not had the time to put into the dogs that he wished (he banged up his knee during the year) I have no clue what sort of tempermant or ability they have but they come from good breeding and are very well cared for. I may be going to see them tonight. As I said they are 12 months old, would I be able to make them into a decent working dog over the course of the next year or is it too late. What should I look out for in them to see if they have potential? The dog will be mainly used for pheasant I am very green to dog training as my brother has trained all our previous dogs so apologies for my lack of knowledge If they are from good working stock they'll nearly be trained themselves, as long as they're setting you won't be too bad. But you'll probably have to do a bit of obedience with them to start off with. Make sure they have been propely introduced to the gun or if they have been shot over, if they haven't don't rush into things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul in North Lincs. Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 dont let NTTF see this all there'll be none left for matey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Paul I am in the doo deep enough now with being back upto 10, and I have not had the bottle enough to tell her that I may be keeping a bitch Red and White Irish Setter puppy if this breeding goes well with a friends bitch. Vegeta, Go and have a look at them and as has been mentioned ask some questions, about gun introduction etc. Take a lead with you and ask if you can take them one at a time for a walk around the block or down the lane. This will give you a good feel asto where their obediance is. Ask if they point on scent yet as well as any other questions you can think of. Write your questions down before you go and take a pen so you can make notes. Now comes the hard part .....before you make up your mind to take one or two of them come home and have a good hard think for 48 hours. Ask the owner to give you the right of first refusal, and then post any questions you have on here and we will try to help you answer them. NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegeta Posted January 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 well lads went to see the dog the other night and took her for a more extensive test run yesterday. She's not for me I'm afraid. Beautiful dog (really should have taken pics to post them) and fairly obedient, she just didn't want to hunt though and was very very timid. We took her to a place with woodcock, pheasant and snipe and she just ignored all the game. Very disheartening really. The search for a replacement will continue and no doubt I will have more questions throughout the year. NTTF any chance you'll post me a setter :unsure: Thanks for the advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 There are very few English setters around in the UK with a good strong working breeding. The show breeding has really ruined this breed , producing a hesitant, often nervous dog with a total lack of concentration and working instinct. If you really want a setter , you would be better looking for an Irish setter and go to Ireland to get it. There you should see at least one of the parents working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegeta Posted January 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 (edited) There are very few English setters around in the UK with a good strong working breeding.The show breeding has really ruined this breed , producing a hesitant, often nervous dog with a total lack of concentration and working instinct. I'd swear you were there with me Cran, the dog wouldn't even go through a broken gate with a very obvious gap in it. She just stood at the other side looking at us. She would have been a fantastic pet but as a working dog, forget about it. If you really want a setter , you would be better looking for an Irish setter and go to Ireland to get it.There you should see at least one of the parents working. Handy that as I live in Ireland. :unsure: Edited January 14, 2008 by Vegeta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeksofdoom Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Hey Vegeta, Try this site out http://www.donedeal.ie/donedeal/, picked up a springer recently on this, Lots of different types of pups, Regards DOD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegeta Posted January 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Hey Vegeta,Try this site out http://www.donedeal.ie/donedeal/, picked up a springer recently on this, Lots of different types of pups, Regards DOD Great web site thanks a million, there are some potential setters on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegeta Posted January 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 http://www.annacarriggundogs.com/index.html This guy lives on my door step so I will be calling to him over the next few days to have a look. He trained my cousins springer spaniel and by christ did he make a good dog of him. Things may be looking up. Would love an Irish setter (or 2) for pheasant/woodcock shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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