Cosd Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Haven't tried it yet. Bought two flocked full body Pigeons, haven't got/made poles yet. Every site you look at for decoys, there are lofing poles being sold as well. Is it an important part of pigeon decoying? Is it just so that the birds see them from distance so they come closer then spot the deeks on the ground, or is it another form of decoying altogether? Do you then pop the pigeons whilst they sit in the tree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Haven't tried it yet. Bought two flocked full body Pigeons, haven't got/made poles yet. Every site you look at for decoys, there are lofing poles being sold as well. Is it an important part of pigeon decoying? Is it just so that the birds see them from distance so they come closer then spot the deeks on the ground, or is it another form of decoying altogether? Do you then pop the pigeons whilst they sit in the tree? you have your own answers above I use a cheap fishing pole to loft and made my own hangers (only cause i can weld and have the kit) good for a roost shoot this time of year or as you say attracting to a sittie tree near your pattern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted February 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Haven't tried it yet. Bought two flocked full body Pigeons, haven't got/made poles yet. Every site you look at for decoys, there are lofing poles being sold as well. Is it an important part of pigeon decoying? Is it just so that the birds see them from distance so they come closer then spot the deeks on the ground, or is it another form of decoying altogether? Do you then pop the pigeons whilst they sit in the tree? you have your own answers above I use a cheap fishing pole to loft and made my own hangers (only cause i can weld and have the kit) good for a roost shoot this time of year or as you say attracting to a sittie tree near your pattern Thanks pavman, I just needed the air clearing. I came to the conclusions by reading bit's and pieces. i couldn't find anything with a clear descripition on the subject Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Most of us set our hides up against a hedgerow and at this time of year (no foliage), putting a couple of full bodied decoys into or onto the hedge is very effective. Not too close to the hide obviously and you only have to put them as far as you can reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 its sounds like your new to pigeon shooting. Why dont you buy a good book about it, then ask questions on the bits you dont understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 I use 30M of twine and a 8 oz lead weight. Tie the twine to the weight ( which has a strong throwing loop ) sling it over a high branch , attact the decoy to the twine and haul it up like a flag. You can reach 60+ feet with a bit of pratice. One thing , if you think the lead is going to snag when you pack up just hold the lead and cut the string , pull the string through the branches and reattach the lead for next time. Only attach one decoy per line if there is a wind , otherwise they will swing about and look unatural and set the decoy a few yards to one side. Otherwise the birds will offer you a dificult shot as they try and land above your head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 its sounds like your new to pigeon shooting. Why dont you buy a good book about it, then ask questions on the bits you dont understand. He can ask as many questions as he likes, that what this Forum is all about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nav54 Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 i quite often put lofters up this time of year mate they can work and not never noticed that much difference but some people wont go without them, I think it is important to put as many up as poss with it not looking to overcrowded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 its sounds like your new to pigeon shooting. Why dont you buy a good book about it, then ask questions on the bits you dont understand. He can ask as many questions as he likes, that what this Forum is all about. I agree with you but what Im saying is if he gets a book which explains and shows diagrams, it might be easier as its a step by step guide, then ask questions and tips on the bits he not sure about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted February 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 i quite often put lofters up this time of year mate they can work and not never noticed that much difference but some people wont go without them, I think it is important to put as many up as poss with it not looking to overcrowded. Do you use the lofting hooks? I saw a T-bar type thing that holds 2 birds and have made one of those. I suppose the t-bar means you have to leave the poles in situe, but with hooks you can put up as many as you like.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted February 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 its sounds like your new to pigeon shooting. Why dont you buy a good book about it, then ask questions on the bits you dont understand. He can ask as many questions as he likes, that what this Forum is all about. I agree with you but what Im saying is if he gets a book which explains and shows diagrams, it might be easier as its a step by step guide, then ask questions and tips on the bits he not sure about. I appreciate the help dustyfox. Though I haven't bought any books (yet) I do a lot of reading on the net. What I like about forums is you get a real mix of views and reviews, and how things work out in the real world. I'm sure I will buy books on shooting as I do like to learn and digest, but as good as they might be, they will be written by one person with his/her experiences....!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 I don't know what design your T bar is, but what most of us do is tie twine to a ring in the middle of it and throw it over a branch. Lower it down and then fit your decoys on and rainse it back up so it hangs clearly below the "supporting" branch. A friend of mine has about 10 of these that he made out of thickish wire coat hangers. Incoming pigeons will not realise they are not sitting on a branch. Of course this only works in woodland that is reasonably clear. If it is thick and shrubby then you will need poles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 I appreciate the help dustyfox.Though I haven't bought any books (yet) I do a lot of reading on the net. What I like about forums is you get a real mix of views and reviews, and how things work out in the real world. I'm sure I will buy books on shooting as I do like to learn and digest, but as good as they might be, they will be written by one person with his/her experiences....!! point taken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted February 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 I don't know what design your T bar is, but what most of us do is tie twine to a ring in the middle of it and throw it over a branch.Lower it down and then fit your decoys on and rainse it back up so it hangs clearly below the "supporting" branch. A friend of mine has about 10 of these that he made out of thickish wire coat hangers. Incoming pigeons will not realise they are not sitting on a branch. Of course this only works in woodland that is reasonably clear. If it is thick and shrubby then you will need poles. I like the sound of using twine; As I mentioned before I haven't got the poles yet, and the thought of adding more weight to my bag doesn't excite. I am definitely going to give this a try on Sunday with the two deeks I have got already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nav54 Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 i just use hooks that way you can spread the decoys over the tree a lot better it really is a trial and error thing mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR JAMES Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I use lofting hooks x5 with full bodied decoys. To get them into the tree i use 1 of my hide poles which has a plastic V on the top before setting up my hide or a spare one which i have 4 ov. If there is a tree near to where u can set up then use it, i think it helps get their attention or buy if you have not allready got a rotary & a couple of bouncers they work well too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easy Bully Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Like a few have already said it's really helpful to read a few books on the subject, not only do they give you loads of info but also get the imagination going. I've done pigeon shooting on and off for years but recently read "The Pigeon Shooter by John Batley" and "Shooting Pigeons by John Humphreys" both great books in their own right and really give you loads of info....even manged to borrow both from the local library so can't be bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted February 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Like a few have already said it's really helpful to read a few books on the subject, not only do they give you loads of info but also get the imagination going. I've done pigeon shooting on and off for years but recently read "The Pigeon Shooter by John Batley" and "Shooting Pigeons by John Humphreys" both great books in their own right and really give you loads of info....even manged to borrow both from the local library so can't be bad. Your the second person to recomend The Pigeon Shooter, I will definitely invest in that as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundowner Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 I am wondering if it would work lofting a dead pigeon or 2 with the twine and lead method ? in a bit of a wind you could possible have wings flapping in a tree nearby, surely htat would be getting them in? Good idea or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bru5350 Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 i use a fishing pole and lofting hooks which i make myself ,very efective ,lots of people have seen them and asked me to make them some,have made a few extras and now sell on ebay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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