the hammer Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 having been clay shooting for the past 12 months now thinking about a few competions, what is the correct thing to do in the event of a missfire as been geting a few with me last batch of fiocchis . hammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibby Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Don't keep pulling the trigger, the amount of times i've seen that done and i ask myself what they hope this will acheive apart from a suprise bang and god knows what else. Keep the gun pointed down the range, leave it pointed down there for 10 seconds and then open the gun and remove the cartridge. Then give another go. Gibby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden22 Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 (edited) . Edited November 18, 2008 by Maiden22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaman1 Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Hiya bud, you dont say what clay disipline you shoot, but for most its much the same,! if you have a missfire, YOU MUST KEEP your GUN pointing down range!! and say in a voice to be heard by the ref, MISSFIRE!.... upon which the ref will check that your gun has , indeed malfunctioned.And not malfunctioned because you did not fully release the trigger after the first shot.... in which case you will be told to take the shot/or pair again..... WHATEVER YOU DO,.... DONT TURN ROUND WAVING YOUR GUN TOWARDS ANYONE IN RANGE,..... as you might have a hang up, In which case the gun might go off and hurt/kill anyone its pointed at>!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hammer Posted March 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 yea allways do that anyway mate, its in competions i was told to but gun on safe and hand it to ref/scorer he will try , if you break the gun you loose both birds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hammer Posted March 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 sorry put gun not but, done that in the past as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hammer Posted March 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 cheers berettaman1 thats about what i was told but like to hear it from the experts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 berettaman bang on their. do not put your gun on safe before you hand it to ref or he will think it was on safe to start with, making it your mistake. just hand him the gun when he comes to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nildes Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 You should shout MISSFIRE or, more correctly HANGFIRE. Keep your muzzle pointing in a safe direction and keep foccused on the gun and not the competition or the next clay. Generaly, with modern primers, your cartridge should fire straight away or not at all but, to be safe, you should wait a good sixty seconds before breaking the gun. Make the gun safe Check for a correct indent on the cartridge. Show the judge if they want. Put the cartridge aside and finish your turn when instructed. Give your gun a good clean and if the problem repeats, take it in to a gunsmiths for repair or adjustment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosspot Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 are you using the new Fiocchi Gold thingys? friend bought 250 of em at the weekend and had half a dozen misfires over three boxes after swearing lots and blaming the gun gun he gave me a box of 25 to try and i had three misfires from it needless we won't be buying any more TP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hammer Posted March 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 fiocchi top speed 3 are the ones ,same hear mate thought it was my gun but me mate had 500 had the same problem dodgy batch me thinks get back on the elys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 fiocchi top speed 3 are the ones ,same hear mate thought it was my gun but me mate had 500 had the same problem dodgy batch me thinks :yp: get back on the elys. and as no one has mentioned it i will , take care of the offending shell/s destroy safely, they still have propelant in themand are a live round/cartridge , usualy i cut around the base of the hull and disperse the powder, if you want the wad and shot out, pul your wad,,,,,,,,cup, its always a good idea to let the manufacturer know, e/mail the batch no's or mail the barcode to them. Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter De La Mare Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 (edited) We just throw them on a bonfire in a 50 gal drum. No reported deaths in 20 years or so. You hear a few pops, but that's all. You won't get any pellets flying anywhere as the cart needs a chamber to work. Edited March 6, 2008 by Peter De La Mare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 If you are in a competition and the cartridge fails to go off, do not open the gun. If you do, any evidence that its gun / cartridge fault is lost and the target will be declared "lost". Wait with the gun closed. The referee will check visually that you don't have the safety on (operator error = target lost). They will then take the gun and try the trigger ( gun goes off safely down range = failure to pull trigger / trigger freeze = target lost). The ref will then open the gun and cup the cartridge in the chamber to stop it ejecting. They will look to see if the primer has been struck. If it has = gun / cartridge fault. Target again. Retire any struck carts and try again in practice in the other barrel or a different gun. As a Ref myself I have to say true cartridge failure is very rare. Most failed detonations are operator error or worn guns / firing pins / weak springs. If you say you are having trouble with a batch of carts, get your gun serviced before you blame the cartridges. If a cartridge has been twice through the chamber, been struck on the primer both times, then V cut the powder out and hand the shell to the shoot operator for disposal. Burning shell cases is against agricultural waste directives and could result in prosecutions. Clayman CPSA Referee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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