c.mosley Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 just found a web site that gives you 250 buiss cards of your choice and design for free ! (£4 postage) these would make you look more "upper class" when posted with your begging letters (for shooting land) you can also stick them up in pubs and stuff......... type in "vistaprint" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 ARE YOU GOING TO ORDER ANY? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.mosley Posted August 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 have sent for 250...............free. it may help to get land..................? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 What are you going to have printed on them ? Don't disclose telephone numbers, etc on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.mosley Posted August 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Craig Mosley. Pigeon (Pest) Shooter. my address. post code tel no. mobile no. email address (the badge would be a nice back ground picture..........also good advertising for this web site) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.mosley Posted August 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 i could even pin one up in mr hair dressers !!!!!! :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Are you a member of the BASC ? If so, being able to state that you have public liability insurance cover (which members get), would be an advantage. I have discovered that nowadays, Farmers are very aware of their liabilities in this area. Isn't describing yourself (by your own admission), as a "Pigeon (Pest) Shooter", a contravention of the Trade Descriptions Act ? Seriously, I think I would leave that bit off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.mosley Posted August 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 good point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon master Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 CM, You sound really keen and its good to see, even though you have no land to shoot you are looking at methods of making sure you will have in the future. If I was you, if the farmer asks if you have any land to shoot on at the moment then theres no harm in telling a little porky, think about it, if you have no land already the farmer will think he is taking a risk by giving you his land first. Theres no need to go into some big story but a comment that you do vermin control on a few farms in your country could just tip the scales in your favour. Like Cranfield mentioned, BASC can really help you and as I said before the farmer will know your not some dodgy poacher but a responsible gun who has insurence for damage. Also including this on your business card with membership number would be a great help. As for you marketing line, I would just include FREE VERMIN CONTROL, with a list of quarry species you can control. be carfeull with this because if you only have an airgun then major vermin control on crop fields is going to be tricky, but rabbits ect no problem. Good luck The PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.mosley Posted August 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 i have shotguns and stuff......................... just waiting for some land.................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Red Fox Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 CM I understand exactly where the pigeon master is coming from as most of the land I shoot on is gained because I have the land next door and so on.....but beware that if you tell afarmer you shoot on other farmland (little porky to increase your chances) he may ask you where and most farmers know each other very well it's a community thing.so be carefull and my advice is to be honest. Foxsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.mosley Posted August 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2004 i must have sent 12 letters out..................... only 2 answers................(thanx but no thanx) gettin peed off.................. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Red Fox Posted August 29, 2004 Report Share Posted August 29, 2004 Don't send letters or make phone calls go personally and talk to the farmer not any of his workers.you will find that this will pay off. See if you can see any pigeons flighting into grain and ask if you can have a go at them (even if it's only today) the farmer will gain confidence in you one day at a time. Foxsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.mosley Posted August 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2004 iv thought of that but find it hard to talk to strangers............ sounds daft...........(i am 35) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Red Fox Posted August 29, 2004 Report Share Posted August 29, 2004 How are you at talking to wimen, maybe you could visit the farmers wife........ Foxsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.mosley Posted August 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2004 can do that...................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warcop Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 hi mate know how your feeling ,i must have knocked on about 40 farms and got the knock back of them all,i live in cumbria but am from liverpool ,so thought it must be the scouse acsent,so i got a mate to knock on a few and got the same knockbacks,i got to the stage where i was considering selling the gun and giving it up as a bad idea,but i persisted and knocked on a few more abit further a field from my home ,i asked about another ten or so farmersand got one who said yes no problem ,started shooting on his land and after a few weeks asked a few of his neighbouring farms and found that once i mentioned his name and that i had permission on his land there attitudes changed ,i now have 6 farms with permission and have been approached by a few more asking if we would consider going on there land and shoot for them so dont give in mate ,go and knock on doors ,i know you find it hard to speak to strangers but go with the attitude that they can only say no and thats the worst that can happen,i also fouun if you can find out the farmers name before you knock and ask for him by name ,then introduce yourself,shake his hand then tell him what your offering,also if you are a member of basc ect make sure you tell him ,if not join it all helps in the cause hope it help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon master Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Warcop, its good to hear that you kept at it because without a doubt, land is the hardest bit of kit to get. Dont give up yet CM theres guys on here that have searched for a couple of years before getting land. Good luck Th PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.mosley Posted September 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 thanx for that little "pick me up". needed it iv sent about 30 letters...............3 answers will have to start knocking.............. thanx again craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbogriff Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 like you say once you know one , you soon get to know a lot. id second the 'get his name first ' also try asking if they know of a neibough who may have shooting groung if you get refused , then you can say that 'mr smith , down the road' said you might have shooting ; then wait for the .. oh you know old smithy ! hope this helps jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.mosley Posted September 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 good idea................thanx never thought of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.mosley Posted September 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 sent off another 6 letters today.............. thats 36 sent with 4 answers................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 it took me ages to get the first positive reply after sending 260 letters but the strange thing is once you get the first one the others seem to just start rolling in.i took on another 2 small pieces of land last week and im getting to the situation now where i will have to turn anymore down.a tip that is worth considering is buy yourself a couple of dozen mole traps and offer your services as a mole trapper as well ,i dont know why but farmers seem to hate moles more than pigeons,rabbits rooks crows and anything else you can think of.so stick at it and you will get a shoot in the end.hope that helps a bit.ps i only pay £1.99 each for mole traps so its not a massive investment when you consider the cost of the rest of the gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.mosley Posted September 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 very helpfull.................. thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbitbosher Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 Youve proberly heard this all before me duk , But dress smart , cards n cap in hand (basc membership) Knock them thar farm doors , drilling is (or has in some cases) starting SOON!! pigeons is going to need Boshing ,, Trust me you get somewhere in the end WB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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