flash Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 gonna apply for my SGC very soon. and have been looking at places i can site my cabinet. what are the criteria that i need to abide by? ie, how thick does the wall need to be, and can it be in my bedroom etc. cheers flash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_colt Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Bedroom is a good choice as, it is not an area of the home casual visitors (ie strangers) would normally see. You need to secure it a solid outer wall preferably in a corner to obstruct attack. Any skirting board will need to be removed so the cabinet is flush with the wall. Or you could mount it above the skirting board if the cabinet is not too heavy. Wall thickness is not so much important as the solidity of the wall. If you have solid brick then it is not much of a problem. If you have a breeze-block type cavity with an outer brick skin; you either have to go all the way through the brick or use resin studs/bolts and resin to create a secure fixing for the studs to hold onto. mr_colt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 I can confirm that the safe does not need to be on the outer wall. My two safes (2 moves) have both been fixed to inner walls. One was a 0.50meter thick wall, the other is 120mm solid wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_colt Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 I can confirm that the safe does not need to be on the outer wall. My two safes (2 moves) have both been fixed to inner walls. One was a 0.50meter thick wall, the other is 120mm solid wood. Sorry should have read "normally an outer wall." As long as the cabinet is "secured to the fabric of the building" it will hopefully pass inspection. So floor-based securing is another option you could use but it may not satisfy the FEO on it's own depending on type of floor and fixing. You might be interested in reading the firearms security handbook for more information: http://police.homeoffice.gov.uk/news-and-p...k.pdf?version=1 mr_colt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 My FLO advised the safe only needs to be fixed to the fabric of the building, easiest thing is to check with whoever will be inspecting it in-situ as many on here will have received varied opinions. WGD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 And it cant be visible from the window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Mine are coach screwed to the floor joists in a room with no windows and a locked door Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Flash, the FEO will be happier if the cabinet is hidden from view completely, such as in a wardrobe, or cleaning cupboard. The FEO won't want the cabinet secured in a loft or basement, as you might not be minded to lock everything away each time you return from a shooting foray. You also don't need to cut skirting board away, if you don't want to. I have a massive rifle safe sitting on a concrete floor, that has a plywood 'back plate' (the thickness of the skirting board). Ten bolts go through this ply and into a stud wall, and large toggles clamp it to the wall. Another cabinet is bolted into breeze-block, using chemical fixings. Use some initiative, and try to conceal the cabinet first and foremost. And if you can, hide it in a corner with the door hinge away from the wall (leaving minimal room to jemmy the lip of the door open). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretman Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 mine is in me bedroom mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_colt Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 (edited) Obviously keeping it out of view of the windows is important but; you do not have to go to the lengths of hiding it in the wardrobe etc if it would be too difficult to do so. Hiding the cabinet inside something is normally expected if you put it in a room where Joe Public might visit; but put inconspicuously in the corner of a bedroom would probably pass if it met the other criteria. Mine is tucked in the corner of my Bedroom between the wardrobe and the wall corner. You cannot see it through the window, boxes are stacked on-top and in front of it. My dressing gown hangs on a hook by it causing the cabinet to be obscured even further. You would have to go into the room and walk across it before you would even notice it was there. I'm not currently pursuing my SGC at the moment so it isn't bolted in but; the FEO's have been happy with not as much effort to completely hide in my experience. Obviously if you wanted it in a hallway, lounge or kitchen then they would expect it to be hidden completely out of sight. Such as in a larder cupboard etc. The general security of your home and home type has a lot of influence here; as well as the crime rate of the local area. mr_colt. Edited March 26, 2008 by mr_colt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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