pav Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 What are your thoughts on the ultimate fighting championships? I personally enjoy watching it as I train in both Mixed Martial Arts and Wing Chun. But the subject always seems to cause a high level of debate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19_Ferrets Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Love it - watch it all the time... remind me of my early years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reedbradshaw Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 i think for all the hype you hear about it, it still doesnt deliver for me ! its ok but most fights are over within a few rounds ( if not the first ). not taking anything away from the fighters btw but boxing is loads better imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 (edited) I think its a bit mad to be honest, it doesnt seem to be a particular form of martial art but many combined, can be quite entertaining. I have trained with Bob Spore, he is ex SAS, and teaches self offense rather then self defense, its amazing, after it i now feel 500% more confident in my capabilities i didnt even know existed, i have boxed for 4 years when i was in school and that didnt give me confidence as its all about brawn rather than brains. Bob teaches how to read situation's and how to act accordingly, how to take people down with one single blow, how to keep them down when they are down, i have done this during the training to people who are over 6 feet tall and weigh 16+ stone, they drop like babies, im only 5"10 @ just under 12 stone, i dont fear anyone anymore, it really gives that much confidence, because i know in any threatening situation, i can act fast to eliminate the treat to protect myself, this is because the adrennaline doesnt get flowing and i can keep a cool head whilst the would be assailant thinks he is in control when really the table is facing the other way round. Edited June 10, 2008 by Ice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pav Posted June 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Ice, That sounds superb - very similar to the Wing Chun I do. It is a real confidence booster to know you can easily handle someone twice your size in a sticky situation if worst comes to the worse. Take a look at Samuel Kwok on you tube he runs some great seminars and is the international Wing Chun face so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 (edited) I think UFC is great and enjoy TUF even. Loved it when Mr Couture beat Tim Silvia and was gutted when Matt Hughes got toppled. I think it fills the void left by boxing on tv. BJ Penn ,Forrest Griffin very entertaining. I did a few years kickboxing,sadly only when I got in my 40,s and quit as my elbows are affected which could have ruined my fishing and shooting. I would have liked to have tried MMA when younger. I think! They dont believe a bit ,or even a pool of blood should stop a fight do they? Thar SAS thing sounds good. Anything near Manchester like that? Edited June 10, 2008 by vole21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUSC Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 i used to train in MMA (mixed martial arts) and apart from breaking my thumb i found it informative, hugely unviolent as most of the time you spend writhing around on the ground trying to gain a dominant position and is only portrayed as a vile bloodsport as the boxing fraternity seem to afraid of loosing their spot as the no.1 combat sport. There are also vast amounts of rules involved in the proper sanctioned section and Medically because the athletes get hit less before they get KO'd or submit the injuries sustained are less than in Boxing where the padded gloves leads to repeated hits to the head and brain trauma occurs. But as we now see the popularity is beating boxing and with purses getting bigger for professional fighters this sport will only continue to grow. it also uses a combination of martial arts to conquer your oponent its not just about brute force and those who can stand and throw with each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 The general idea is not to let a fight get to the floor as basically once this happens the strongest will win 90% of the time, this is where being able and confident to take someone down in a split second comes in at a massive advantage, then once they are on the ground and you are still on your feet, chance is that you will not need to react anymore to the threat as the once threat is no longer a threat. Plus if a fight ends up on the ground and there is more than one of them, then its not going to be good news from your point of view, with the confidence boost you will not back down from any conforntation, this sign of massive confidence is 70% of the time enough to get any would be assailant to back down.... There are ofter semina's on in manchester, google it im sure you will find something that will be of interest... Best of luck in finding something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUSC Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 The general idea is not to let a fight get to the floor as basically once this happens the strongest will win 90% of the time, this is where being able and confident to take someone down in a split second comes in at a massive advantage Jiu Jitsu mate, aka technique over brute strength any day. also a dam good martial art if any1 is interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Thanks Ice. Is Mike Bisping still competing? One of the best fights I saw was Ian Freeman v Frank Mir in London.There was another English fighter who showed great promise who was stabbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 The general idea is not to let a fight get to the floor as basically once this happens the strongest will win 90% of the time, this is where being able and confident to take someone down in a split second comes in at a massive advantage Jiu Jitsu mate, aka technique over brute strength any day. also a dam good martial art if any1 is interested My lad's into Ju Jitsu and getting pretty good at it He trains about 5 nights a week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 I,d like to do some kind of self defence minus all the warm up and warm down etc. The 100s of push ups did for my old elbows.Will Google it as advised.Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 I am black belt in sha- kuk . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 I have quite a large penis and so have no need of martial arts training Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 I have quite a large penis and so have no need of martial arts training :( No, that's marital arts, Mung Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
game_boy Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 I thinks it great stuff to be honest and if you watch alot maybe sometimes some of the techniques could come to your rescue whenever required. I love the UFC personally. That chap off Mind, Body and Kick-*** Moves was pretty good as well, very imformative. Especially wih the 'Chee' thing. I've tried it, the extra power you can generate from that technique is amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 , i have boxed for 4 years when i was in school and that didnt give me confidence as its all about brawn rather than brains. You must of had a **** trainer then if you were taught brawn rather than brains!!! No offence to yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 , i have boxed for 4 years when i was in school and that didnt give me confidence as its all about brawn rather than brains. You must of had a **** trainer then if you were taught brawn rather than brains!!! No offence to yourself That's fighting talk. There's only one way to resolve this now................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Handbags at 10 paces? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 (edited) , i have boxed for 4 years when i was in school and that didnt give me confidence as its all about brawn rather than brains. You must of had a **** trainer then if you were taught brawn rather than brains!!! No offence to yourself Say it to his face And be prepaired to run like the wind, if i know someone is a boxer, or if i am a boxer, does that mean i should box on the street?? i dont think so, therefore any boxer tries it on the street, he will wake up in bed, i can personally guarantee that!!! Edited June 10, 2008 by Ice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 (edited) Say it to his face And be prepaired to run like the wind Edited June 10, 2008 by chrispti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 , i have boxed for 4 years when i was in school and that didnt give me confidence as its all about brawn rather than brains. You must of had a **** trainer then if you were taught brawn rather than brains!!! No offence to yourself Say it to his face And be prepaired to run like the wind, if i know someone is a boxer, or if i am a boxer, does that mean i should box on the street?? i dont think so, therefore any boxer tries it on the street, he will wake up in bed, i can personally guarantee that!!! Blimey mate.... calm down! anyone who has seriously boxed will know all about being able to read your opponent, work out his weaknesses etc, boxing ''THE SPORT'' is very much brains over brawn as are most martial arts. I never mentioned street fighting...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 (edited) Did kickboxing in my teens before i discovered alcohol and ciggies. It's not the most impressive 'martial art' by any stretch, defensive moves seemed to consist of kicking the **** out of your opponent before they kicked the **** out of you. Fun? Not so sure, i used to pay for privilege, must have had the crapped kicked out of so many times i still thought it was a good idea. Found i did a better job drinking so took that up 5 days a week instead. Ah, those were the days! Edited June 10, 2008 by Markio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuck1 Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Vole - Take a look at Krav Maga too, might be the sort of thing you fancy. They do it near Bury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 (edited) Thanks Tuck. I need mma for old fellers. Actually saw a thing on Discovery about it.Israeli Army use it. Edited June 10, 2008 by vole21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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