Madcowz Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 Hi, I am very lucky and have permission to suse a shotgun on 4 farms and a large Estate and have now been granted permission to use a rifle so I would like to apply for a FAC. Several people have recommended to put several different rifles and moderators down on the form in case I want to get one in the near future and I was wondering what you guys suggest? My neighbour has several and highly recommends a semi auto with a magazine. I have fired this on many occassions and it is great for that 'Fun Fair' style knocking down many bunnies in one go, but I am quite the traditionalist and really like the idea of a bolt action. I love his .22 with subsonic rounds and think this is the idea rifle/ammunition but what about slightly larger ones for foxes? I don't know! Looking for advice please. thanks, /mad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rec-baller Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 go for everything !! may sound daft but they will knock you back on certain calibres for a first application go for .22 lr semi auto + mod for day work .22lr bolt action + mod for night work--explain tht they will have different scopes on .17HMR + mod for longe rang bunny bashing .22 hornet + mod for vermin / fox long range work .223 + mod for foxing .243 + mod for fox / deer i was knocked back on ALL my c/f at first but i re-applied six weeks later and got my hornet. i now have the land and permission for my .223 all the best shaun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radio1ham Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 well i got the cz452 rf with mod for shooting rabbits etc (execelent gun ) and now got the remmington model 7 .243 for fox and deer so i guess those 2 calibers pretty much do all the work price of 22 ammo is a lot cheaper then 243 but you dont do plinking shots with a 243 but with 22 ammo around £30 per 500 you can afford you use them more but if you get into stalking deer a shot from the 243 will more than pay for it self for your frezer best if you like your mates gun then consider getting one the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2shots Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 Would it not depend on what theyve given you permission to use or have they left it up to you ?,if so go for the lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAULT Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 two .22 rimfires 1 223 and 1 243 .17 ammo is to expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 If you are a traditionalist, go for a Ruger 77/22 b/a and a Ruger M77 in 223. These will cover most things, and are the two calibres most likely to be granted. If you are likely to shoot deer, go for a 243 later. As has been said, you should first ask the estate which calibres they will give you permission to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 When i first applied for a FAC i put down on the application form .22 rifle,17HMR rifle and a .22 Air-rifle,for Pest Control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straightshooter1 Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 it all depends what you can show good reason to have that is the only guide lines there is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madcowz Posted July 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Thanks for the advice guys. I can shoot anything apart from deer as there is already a stalker on the land and the land is already ticketed for most calibres. Is it worth me putting a couple down that I don't really want so as to be able to use them as negotiation or is that too complicated? Right now a simple bolt action .22 with a moderator is all I think I need, but like most things, once you start you realise you need/want more. I just want to plan ahead to save me extra expense later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussman Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 If you are a traditionalist, go for a Ruger 77/22 b/a and a Ruger M77 in 223. These will cover most things, and are the two calibres most likely to be granted. If you are likely to shoot deer, go for a 243 later. As has been said, you should first ask the estate which calibres they will give you permission to use. Someone likes the Rugers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 If you are a traditionalist, go for a Ruger 77/22 b/a and a Ruger M77 in 223. These will cover most things, and are the two calibres most likely to be granted. If you are likely to shoot deer, go for a 243 later. As has been said, you should first ask the estate which calibres they will give you permission to use. Someone likes the Rugers I think he works for them Madcowz, If you are only going to shoot rabbits and foxes, keep it simple and just apply for those calibres, you can always add rifles later with a variation. I would go .22 b/a and .223 Yes, it will cost you £26(?) and a load of paperwork, but if that is all you need for now go for that - then you won't have to get into the negotiation bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 If you are a traditionalist, go for a Ruger 77/22 b/a and a Ruger M77 in 223. These will cover most things, and are the two calibres most likely to be granted. If you are likely to shoot deer, go for a 243 later. As has been said, you should first ask the estate which calibres they will give you permission to use. Someone likes the Rugers I think he works for them Madcowz, If you are only going to shoot rabbits and foxes, keep it simple and just apply for those calibres, you can always add rifles later with a variation. I would go .22 b/a and .223 Yes, it will cost you �26(?) and a load of paperwork, but if that is all you need for now go for that - then you won't have to get into the negotiation bit. Sound logic there, and realistically, what is 26 quid in with the cost of a new gun, scope, mounts, cleaning gear, etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 If I were you...(all with mods) FAC Air .22LR B/A - (S/A's whilst "fun" you will probably live to regret it...) .223 That should be plenty to get you started, you can learn a bit of a "trade" with the rimrife before exploring the .223 or higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 I was going to say, if you do your time with the rimfire and get through some ammo, applying later for deer calibres or open tickets will be easier than not being able to demonstrate any experience at all. I go through phases of fancying FAC air but everyone tells me they overlap the .22 so much I would never use it, but I appreciate in some situations they are a very useful tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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