tazkb Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 I find it really irritating when some one slags me of without being able to defend myself as the thread has been closed, It would seem some people have taken my post completely the wrong way or most likley not read it properly, no one on here has done more than me in the past to help other people, how dare you criticise my post, i really havn't a problem with what cocker does with his permission that's his look out, all I know is i have put myself out hundreds of times at a cost to me to help others out, those people who have met me and know me will vouch for me, but we obviousley have some smart ***** on here that know better, when i have newbies calling me, a man of over 30years in the game then it's time to call it quits, I have tried my best to be helpfull to others and so far have never had a complaint. There seems to be a lot of creeping and crawling in order to get to fire a shot at game, well i'm sorry but i find myself above that, I have permission allready with the offer of more, i only put my name forward in order to help other people well it would seem you either don't want my help or your that good you don't need it, so be it, i withdraw my aplication and any help that went with it. i'm sick and tired of cockey **** who think they no better than anyone else. I have no problem with people who disagree with me but i take offense when i'm slagged of for offering advise. I will continue to offer my services to those who are genuine and not so full of their selfs. I have made several friends on here and other forums so i can't be all that bad, I'm a fair bloke mostly, allways tried to help others but some people don't deserve it so be it i won't be made a laughing stock by complete strangers, so do as you like with your permission if it works good on you if it doesn't , well there will be plenty who will say told you so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Perhaps if you had given the people involved a little more time to sort the thing out between them first it might have been a different story. I don't think they have had the time to go over any of it themselves just yet, but your little out burst has done you no favours in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazkb Posted December 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 what ouburst are you talking about, i had no outburst, i wished then good luck, i withdrew partley because i don't think it's workable and partly because i was told emails HAD been sent to those choosen ones simple enough really it would seem some people have taken my post completley the wrong way, try reading it again properly I said as i wasn't a newbie and hadn't been chosen to take part i wouldn;t be having anything else to so with the project ? whats wrong with that, i have enough on my plate HELPING newcommers to the sport to the point of considering becomming an instructor (i have been asked if i was interested) I have helped a good few people myself and indeed am waiting to take 2-3 people of here out in the near future, so i'll tell you what mate you keep your opinions to yourself ehh, you know f all about me, who i am and what i do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 what ouburst are you talking about, i had no outburst, i wished then good luck, i withdrew partley because i don't think it's workable and partly because i was told emails HAD been sent to those choosen ones simple enough really it would seem some people have taken my post completley the wrong way, try reading it again properly I said as i wasn't a newbie and hadn't been chosen to take part i wouldn;t be having anything else to so with the project ? whats wrong with that, i have enough on my plate HELPING newcommers to the sport to the point of considering becomming an instructor (i have been asked if i was interested) I have helped a good few people myself and indeed am waiting to take 2-3 people of here out in the near future, so i'll tell you what mate you keep your opinions to yourself ehh, you know f all about me, who i am and what i do looks like there judgement was good then. good night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 It's cocktail night in the Mungler household tonight. Stand by your beds. In the meantime, come on lads, share the love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 It's cocktail night in the Mungler household tonight. Stand by your beds. In the meantime, come on lads, share the love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Whilst seeing long standing members "03 and "04 knocking 7 bells out etc would be good sport, tonight is cocktail night and the toll is heavy. More random posts in due course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazkb Posted December 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Look let me make some thing perfectly clear here, I don't need any help, I was offering to help but as there seems a few on here that think i'm fair game to have a pop at then sod yer, like i said i have all i need and if you can do without my help and any advice i am able to give then do it your self your obviously that knowledgable that you don't need any help which therefore begs the question why are you asking for any help in the first place I have helped people starting out for years, what have you done ?? I have taken people on my shoot, helped them get their own permissions, shown them the ropes etc etc I offered to help on the thread below and got slagged of so i withdrew any help as i can't be bothered to help those who don't want helping simple as. i'M not particulaly short of people to help i get asked all the time, I have over 30 years experiance have you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Easy lads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazkb Posted December 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 arrr some people just get my back up, iv'e had a bad day, i'm in a lot of pain and i come home to sarcastic digs i offer to help and end up being slagged off theres no need for it. iv'e been doing this lark for donkeys it's like teaching your gran to suck eggs there are people on here i have offered to help, they seem happy enough with me, it's allways some one who knows absolutley ****** all about you that starts it off, it's uncalled for and gotten me really wound up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyxologos Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 (edited) Let me just say that tazkb, like others here (webber, golden cocker of course, etc) have offered to help me get some on-the field experience without even knowing me. I have no knowledge of what has been said in other threads, I just came back from a nice night out with good food and tasty drinks to read this thread. I am sure that after everyone has had a good sleep over things we will all understand that the things that bring us closer are far more than those that divide us. After all, we all share the same passion/hobbie/interest so please do not write things that we might regret afterwards. As a newcomer to shooting and to the forum, I urge you to not give up on us new people wanting to get a foot in/experience or get on each other's throats. I am a bit merry after a few drinks, so please pardon my 'mellow' mood. All the best to all of my fellow PW members Konstantinos Edited December 29, 2008 by Psyxologos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1979 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 well i didnt even get a reply wen i put my name forward about the permission!!!!! not all people from CHORLEY are wrong uns you know!!!! i wud have been glad to help and share the permission..i am an ex underkeeper so could probably been of some use!!! oh well,never mind..thier loss!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Nobody should be getting their knickers in a twist. webber has said that he is going to look at the ground and work out the best way to organise things, so I don't get the impression any guns have been chosen yet. When he has done his "look see", he will post again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazkb Posted December 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Ill be sending emails now to the people who kindly replied to the first posting. Maybe the cruxt of my original post was based on the fact that the word NOW i take to mean NOW not next week and I said I would not be taking any part i meant as I was not REQUIRED to take any part I am posting this so as those who jumped on my post fully understand what I meant and not what they red into it ! There may well be a few on here who think bad of me because of the whole charade of the other thread, but I have had some very shall we say encouraging Pm's, as the saying goes you know who your friends are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1979 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 bet he wishes he never started all this off now!!! ha ha..good luck to him!!!hope all turns out well for the chosen ones!!!! happy new year!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Notice to all interested parties. Cranfield has quite rightly indicated that choices have yet been made, nor will there be in haste. In due course we shall be reviewing the PMs sent to golden cocker, and shall initially seek to identify potential mentors, and for want of a better word, potential apprentices.. Meetings will then be arranged to access potential mentors, and ensure that newbies are safe shots before they ever step foot on the land. tazkb jumped the gun by some margin, and has since sought to qualify his statements, and bases his argument on the unfortunate use of one word. He may well have received PMs in support, but in support of what? I also have received PMs a few from tazkb, as you may expect their content is not what you would choose to receive from someone who claimed to have a strong wish to take part in a project which is continuing to evolve. webber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Maybe the cruxt of my original post was based on the fact that the word NOW i take to mean NOW not next weekand I said I would not be taking any part i meant as I was not REQUIRED to take any part I am posting this so as those who jumped on my post fully understand what I meant and not what they red into it ! There may well be a few on here who think bad of me because of the whole charade of the other thread, but I have had some very shall we say encouraging Pm's, as the saying goes you know who your friends are i dont know you as such but can sympathise with the pain thing...... have a new year hug on me.... shaun.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazkb Posted December 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 yet again webber you continue to try and fuel your argument, I was mearly quantifying why i said what i did when i did full stop, The Pm's i sent you where to remove myself from the whole process no more no less, that was done by Pm to avoid any public bickering which is something you seem hell bent on doing. when these comunities grow there will obviousley be dissagreements and clashes of personality, Personally me and webber don't get on but then we have disagreed on other issues so that doesn't supprise me, what annoys me though is when some one takes a personal dislike of a person to a new level by trying to make it look as though that person is an undisireable. In this case two people have had a what I think is a clash of personalities, some thing that happens everyday in normal life, well so be it.Why then webber are you trying to turn your obvious dislike for me into a public war of words? I think you will (and most other people on here) find me a perfectly decent bloke who has spent many years helping the comunity which I support. Maybe I took something you said on the other thread in the wrong context, that is why i have explained myself and my actions on here. I also have received PMs a few from tazkb, as you may expect their content is not what you would choose to receive from someone who claimed to have a strong wish to take part in a project which is continuing to evolve you are obviousley trying to be-little me on here with your charecter assasinations, lets take the above phrases "as you may expect" and "some one who claimed" Now some people might think i am over reacting or being a bit sensitive, well yes actually i can be quite sensitive and i find the last post by webber to be offensive and unneccasary, I originaly asked to be considered for permission to shoot on some land not that far from where i live, i offered to share that permission and also offered to take others out to teach them what I know, then the whole situation changed and imho became over complicated and a bit of a mess, so i withdrew my intention. since then I have been slated by a few people, only a few but this has then been used by webber to make it look as though i am a bad person which I am not. The fact that webber doesn't like me has been made clear by Pm in the past, I suggest webber if you want to continue to slag me off you do it by Pm, not on a public forum, now let's put this to bed, we obviousley don't agree on things and we don't particulaly like each other, it's not a crime so be it, but stop insulting me on here ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1979 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 come on lads....sort it out!!!!!! come av a few pints!!!!!!! CHORLEY tonite!!! ur both welcome!!!! we can talk shootin and stuff!!!! no need for bickerin!!! theres enuff people against wot we ALL love doin..so lets not get at each other eh!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 taxkb At all times I have been courteous to you, including PMs. At no point have I said that I dont like you, but you seem hell bent on achieving that as an end result. You can make all the inferences that you wish, ill founded though they may be. True I dont appreciate some of your comments with regards to the forthcoming project, and for the final time acknowledge your wish not to be included in the project, that may well be a pity, but thats your choice not mine. "you are obviousley trying to be-little me on here with your charecter assasinations," Tazkb, with all due respect you are doing a fine job all on your own. You seem to have missed the fact that I requested the previous thread be closed to prevent persons, including yourself, from taking further criticism. Take another look at the top of this thread, and remind yourself who started it. webber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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